August 10th, 2005
Alan Watt on
"Sweet Liberty" with Jackie Patru
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Jackie: Well, good evening, ladies and gentlemen.  Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty.  It is Wednesday.  It is the last day of our broadcast week.  It is the 10th of August, in the year 2005.  And Alan is with us, Alan Watt is with us again this evening folks.  And if you were not listening last night, there is a possibility that Alan is not going to be able to continue his work, unless thereís some help coming forth, and maybe Alan, we could mention it just briefly for our listeners who werenít tuned in last night.  But I, folks, I think it behooves all of us, to extremely appreciate and listen, and to what has been offered, what has been presented.  Alan Watt, I said this a long, long time ago, he brought us out of the Dark Ages, and into the beginning, coming into the light, if you would, of the truth.  And I would really regret if we wouldnít be able to have him on, or if you, those of you, many of you I know, whoíve had conversations with Alan wouldnít be able to get a hold of him.


[Technical difficulties at radio station]


Jackie: Well, what I wanted to talk, remember last night, when I said there was a subject Iíd like us to address, you to address.  What I, and I know that we touched on it. (Phone rings) Yes.


Caller: Hello, Jackie.  Yeah, this is Jim again.  Youíre on.


Jackie: Thanks very much, Jim.  Bye.  Alright, weíre on the air now, for our shortwave listeners.  Folks, Iím sorry for that mix-up.  No, Iím sure WWCR is sorry, because it wasnít us.  But Alan, what I would like you to address tonight is the Israel identity, Christian identity.  And I know that youíve said, well, itís all part of the thing, and all that.  But there are a lot of people I donít think who understand what that entails, where did it come from, and all of that.  Would you be willing to kind of expand on that?


Alan: I donít really like talking about it.  Iíll tell you why.


Jackie: Why?


Alan: Weíve done it before. 


Jackie: But not to any length.


Alan: And also, itís like going back to kindergarten.  And if people canít understand the basics of whatís happening in their lives at this precise moment, they donít stand much of a chance of whatís rushing down upon them.  Itís almost like trying to start right back at scratch, square one, to bring them up to date, and thereís no time.  All we need to know is that Christian identity has royal approval.  Itís chartered by the British royalty.  Itís part of the British Empire movement to convince the public that Britain, or London, put it this way.  See, we get confused with terms of nations.  These arenít nations.  These are capital cities with elites living in them.  And so, London, really, about 200 families in London run the British Empire.  And, of course, they use every psychological means to do so.  And thereís nothing better than appealing to peopleís ego, telling them theyíre superior or special, and using religion to back it up.  Thatís an ancient technique thatís been used for thousands and thousands of years in all empires, and all the British Israel movement is another one towards that global agenda.  And the idiots that follow it I have no time for, to be honest with you.  I think theyíre petty little elitists.  Even the poor ones.  Thereís nothing worse than looking at someone whoís poor, but believing theyíre superior because God told them so.  And looking down their noses at other people.  Itís a snobbish thing.  It has snob appeal.  And it also, as I say, furthers the whole movement of globalism, which will not end up with a utopia for the people.  Itís going to be hell for the people, but a utopia for a small group of elitists whoíve used them all.  And itís chartered, as I say, all of these movements that are interlinked, even, I might even say the latter one, who was just on the show, in your time space.  Itís all part of the same thing, whether they try to deny it or not.  Theyíre all part of the same grouping, of elitists, you know.  And that God has made them superior, and itís their right to rule the world, us against you.  But it has royal charter approval, and that tells you all you really need to know.


Jackie: Youíre saying that British Israelism has royal charter approval.


Alan: Itís registered, itís chartered by the British royalty, like the banks are chartered in Britain by the royalty.


Jackie: And this is where the whole Israel or Christian Identity movement came from?


Alan: Yeah.  I mean, it started off with a nutcase, back in the 1800s, who was eventually locked up by the royalty as being insane, because, well, he thought, since weíre all the children of Israel, then Iíve traced my lineage back to David, so Iíve got more right to sit on that throne than you do.  So, Queen Victoria had him locked up in an insane asylum, but then her advisors thought, ďyou know, this is a good idea.  If we can con the people of the Commonwealth to believe that they are the real people of Israel, then theyíll go forward with our agenda for globalism, and say that itís Godís work.Ē  And thatís been used ever since.  And of course, they use racism, they use everything to justify it.  And they have the white Anglo-Saxons at the top, and Germanics.  And then they have a category, a sliding category, right down to the dark-skinned people.  And youíre graded like eggs, you know.  Grade A, B, C or D.  And if youíre a D or C, then tough luck, because youíre not supposed to hang around in the near future.  So, this is the whole nonsense with this movement.  Itís a snobbish, elitist-run, political agenda, using religion for the idiots that actually follow it.  But then, followers are always pretty well idiots, and theyíre always used. And itís going to simply end up with globalism.  And at the end, they better pray to their deity for help, being so special, because I donít think theyíre going to get much, when it all comes down, unless they belong to the inner circles of the elite, which very few of them do. 


Jackie: I guess I always have that hope in my heart, that there will be people that will hear and suddenly see, you know, the idiocy of it, because it is idiocy.  Itís beyond my comprehension.  And I just always think, maybe thereís somebody out there or some out there who suddenly will get it, Alan.


Alan: Well, Iíll tell you, as I say, weíre all going round in this big whirlpool right now.  And there are thousands of organizations and religions all fighting each other, all fighting petty differences, each one given to the people, each one of those religions given to the people, like tailor-made suits, and they bought them.  And theyíre all fighting each other, as they go round and round and round in this whirlpool, and they canít even see, as they fight each other, the big drain hole at the bottom that theyíre all getting sucked into.  And thatís all intentional.  When you create chaos, or an age of chaos, you use every group that you have created to fight each other and keep the confusion going.  And thatís where they all are right now.  Theyíre going down that big sink hole, because every day there are laws added upon laws, and Joe Public is too busy with his petty little hobby or his favorite topic, which is generally himself or his religion, to see whatís really happening.  And to deprogram people whoíve chosen this is too strenuous a task, and thereís no time left.  It took centuries and centuries to build up this technique of deprogramming people, and right now, weíre at a stage where we donít have the time to go after individuals and do it for them.  Weíre running out of time, very fast.  You know, I was watching traffic today, as tourists were just going north, and I thought, you know, not one single one of these vehicles will have an occupant whoís even aware, or is even thinking that this lifestyle will end eventually.  They truly believe that this is going to go on forever. 


Jackie: And theyíre going to be able to afford the gas to take their trips. 


Alan: Even as theyíre scraping to do so now, yeah.  Thatís right.


Jackie: Yeah, and you said Rumsfeld had made the statement, maybe we didnít hear it here.  Iíve not seen it or heard it, but that, here in the States, that theyíre going to be actually doubling the present cost of gas.


Alan: Yes, and that was the same speech that he said that they might use tactical nuclear weapons on Iran. 


Jackie: Theyíre real crazies, arenít they?


Alan: No, theyíre not crazy.  They planned this a long, long, probably before I was born.


Jackie: You donít think thatís crazy, Alan?


Alan: Yeah, itís crazy with an intellect.  So, sure.  They know what theyíre doing, because they plan it so far ahead.  And I have no doubt something will happen this October, because thatís when Mars will be the closest itís been for thousands of years.


Jackie: Oh, the warring planet.


Alan: And of course, the Red October was the revolution for Bolshevism.  And red is their color, by the way. Thatís why the British army had the red headband round the officersí hats.  Wherever you see the color red, thatís their color. 


Jackie: They had red coats too, didnít they?


Alan: Yeah, but nowadays they still have the red band around their hats.  And so, by the way, do the Chinese officers, youíll notice.† Because the capitalists in London created the communists.  Thatís why.  Thatís why you had Red Square.  Gene Roddenberry is the red berry, you know, of the Star Trek episodes.


Jackie: Roddenberry.  Rodden, Red. 


Alan: Their color is red, and itís been red for thousands of years.  The mystery religion.  Thatís their color.  And they run all religions.  Thatís why the symbols, all of the symbols that the British Israel Movement used were all taken from the mystery religion.  And the idiots that follow it, donít even know that.  Even their logo, which is the Templar type cross, which means the sun, the S-U-N, is superimposed over the Saint Andrewís cross, which is the X, and of course, thatís the illumined man.  Thatís the symbol of the illumined man.  They donít even know that.  Theyíre very ignorant people.  They only know what theyíve been told.  And it doesnít occur to them to investigate it themselves. 


Jackie: Oh, you know what.  Some of these people have, of course somebody probably taught them, but I read a thing the other day.  In fact, I put it in a file, because it was amazing how this individual went through the "scriptures" and of course, they never talk about some of those statements that donít make any sense at all, that the special and chosen people are going to loan to nations and borrow from none. 


Alan: Well, the main thing that the British Israel are always quoting is that the promise given to Abraham and so on was that his seed would be as, you know, the stars of the sky, and the sands and so on.  And of course, they say, ďwell, it canít be the Jews, because thereís not enough of them, so therefore the British Empire was the biggest one in the world.  So, it must be us.Ē  Thatís the con game that they go with.  Thatís what they play by.


Jackie: Oh, they go through a lot more than that.


Alan: But thatís what they play at.  Thatís how they keep trying to justify this pathetic movement.  And by the way, the British Israel movement is the World Federalists Association.  Itís one in the same thing.  Theyíre both chartered under the two names.  Itís the same organization.  They used to call themselves the world parliamentarians.  And now itís the World Federalist Association.  And they get massive funding from all the foundations and Rockefellers and so on, to make everybody, all these gofers, work towards globalism.  And these gofers think itís going to be a Utopia for them because theyíre Godís chosen people, all these British people, extract, or Germanic and all this stuff, and theyíre all slated for extinction, once their job is over.  Thatís the traditional way of things.  Those that run this system are cost effective.  They donít believe in useless eaters.  So, once the job is over, there will be no North America, as you know it, or Britain.  Britain has already changed so much so that you wouldnít know what country it was.  You might think it was from India. 


Jackie: In other words, and we were talking about that earlier, or in another conversation, that for the time being, although Canada and the US and Mexico have been merged, theyíre still playing the game with passports and stuff like that at the borders. 


Alan: Yes, but you see, the idea of that is to bring in the universal identity card.  Theyíre already advertising on radio and television that you can get a quick pass, a quick pass, a pre-screened pass through your border with this new ID card that you apply for.


Jackie: Oh, my, youíre kidding.


Alan; No.


Jackie: And itís the same one that England is putting out now.


Alan: Same company that manufacturers them.  Itís the same card.


Jackie: And itís the same card that will be the Real ID.


Alan: And your bank card.


Jackie: They call it here in the US; and do they have a name?  Are they using it in Canada now too?


Alan: Theyíre going to start issuing it with the next licenses I think, this coming year.  So, as you get your license renewed, your driving license, youíll get the card instead.  But youíll have to go in and get fingerprinted and eye-scanned.


Jackie: Well, Iíll tell you what.  I read the bill myself, and what they have done is they said, they laid it out, you know, what requirements are going to be, the identification requirements in order to get this ID card.  But it also says that the Secretary of Homeland Security can add any other requirements that he feels are necessary.


Alan: Yeah.  Itís wide open. 


Jackie: So, itís a Czar.  Itís a Totalitarian.  Yeah, and I wanted our listeners to think about this.  I know that I did say it earlier when we talked about this, Alan.  But it isnít just, you know one of the things that it said in the bill, is that the States are not mandated, you know, to implement it.  However, any state that doesnít, nobody in that state will be able to board a commercial airliner.


Alan: Thatís right. The same in Canada, that was announced.


Jackie: Thatís right.  Well thatís because the federal government has control over the air transportation.


Alan: The powers of the air.


Jackie: But what I want, with the first thing that came to my mind are the federal highways, because the States have been very, very busy turning their highways over to the federal government.  And I talked to a rep in Illinois about this, and he said, well, itís because that way, they have to maintain them.  And I said, yeah, but they take all the taxes out of the states to "maintain them".  And he admitted that they use the road taxes to blackmail the states into passing particular bills.  But the point is, there are federal highways.  The main thoroughfares where people do their traveling are federal highways today.  And if you donít, and this, they call the Real ID, Federal Identification.  And it has to meet federal specs.  And, so therefore, my thought is, if youíre on one of those federal highways when this thing has been fully implemented, and you donít have a Real ID, youíre gone. 


Alan: Yeah, or if your vehicle is not up to what they call federal standards, which are international standards.


Jackie: It will no longer be the state that makes those, well, they donít much anyway, theyíre all, but, I mean, at least at the present time, itís, how do you call it, if a state decided, like Alabama. Itís been some time, but when the EPA mandated the MTBE to go in the gas, Alabama state legislature just passed a bill and said, no, weíre not going to do it, and they didnít.  But see, the other states go along.  Same thing in Arizona, when they said that ozone is no longer usable.  And for our listeners who may not know this, Dupont was the company that produced ozone, and about three years before their 25-year patent ran out, thatís when they began to talk about global warming, folks.  And the hole in the ozone layer.  And that weíve got to quit using this Freon, because Freon was doing it.  Well, it was Dupont that patented the new coolant, which, thereís reports on it, Alan, that it just tears heck out of the equipment.  And itís nowhere near as effective.


Alan: It is effective.  Itís so much effective that it keeps breaking down.  And theyíre guaranteed after-sales parts.  Thatís where the big profits are.


Jackie: Yeah, exactly.  And much more expensive. But, Arizona, and Iíve got the bill, actual bill, the state of Arizona, or Arizona state passed a law and said that we find that there is no harm from ozone from all of the, there is no hole in the ozone layer, etc, etc.  And so, in Arizona, we will manufacture and we will sell and we will use ozone.  Now, I donít know if theyíve retracted it since then, but it was a bill, and I actually saw the bill signed.  I mean, I got an actual photocopy of the original bill.  So, what Iím saying, long story short, is that there were certain states that did certain things at certain times, and they got away with it, because they could.  But, with this real ID thing, they really got slick with it, didnít they?


Alan: Well, all must become one. 


Jackie: They didnít have to, the states arenít mandated to use it.  They donít have to.  We canít mandate to the states.


Alan: Yeah, so all they do is the big companies say that itís impossible to make a special different gasoline for you, so, if we do, itís going to cost you twice as much, and they cave in and they go along with it.  You canít fight, you canít fight the corporations.  This is the system.  Itís like Carroll Quigley said.  The corporations will be the new feudal overlords, and thatís what they are, you know.  Theyíre dictating our public policies to the people.  And theyíre doing it via governments, which they already own, and in fact, most of the politicians have worked for these corporations, and then, when they leave politics, they go back into those corporations.  So, yeah, this is the ping-pong.  They used to call it fascism at one time, but thatís gone out of vogue.  But itís the same thing, you know.  They dictate their policies to us, yeah.


Jackie: Well, like Rumsfeld was on the board of the Searle company that manufactured Aspartame.


Alan: Thatís right. That was me that first came out with that.


Jackie: Well, they tried forever to get it through, and they knew it just wasnít passing, it wasnít being approved, because how dangerous, and itís a killer.


Alan: And heís a director on the board of Searle.† And heís the guy also, Searle is just a part of the company of Monsanto.† And they are the ones, a company which is a drug manufacturer which specializes in psychotropic drugs for psychiatric illness, is hand-in-glove with your main food producer, that should ring alarms in everybody.  It really should.  And if it doesnít, well, Iím sorry for those people.


Jackie: Monsanto.  Searle?


Alan: Searle is part of Monsanto.


Jackie: Okay.  And folks, in case you wanted to do some research...


(Commercial Break)


Jackie: Alright, weíre back with you folks, with Alan Watt.  The volume was turned down a little bit, and I did not hear the warning, so we were talking into the commercial.  And what I was saying, in case any of you want to do some research on this, Alan had told me about the company Searle, and I read it, and saw it, regarding aspartame, and wasnít pronouncing correctly, so I wasnít connecting the dots.  But that company is spelled Searle.  And as Alan just told us, it is part of the Monsanto Company.  And Searle is a pharmaceutical, Alan.† Well, how did a pharmaceutical produce aspartame?


Alan: Well, aspartame is a chemical.  And theyíre all offshoots of the chemical industry, the pharmaceutical industry, in fact, the whole pharmaceutical industry is an offshoot of the chemical companies.  So, sure, what they canít use as drugs theyíll call something else and try and sell it for any other purpose, as they do with the aluminum oxide that they put in as fluoride, you know.  That was aluminum waste.  So they found a purpose for it through ALCAN, the Bronfmans in Canada, when they owned it.  And that started the ball rolling for nice strong healthy teeth, you know.  So, sure, aspartame was basically some byproduct of some experiments within Searle company.  And, as I say, this company specializes in pharmaceutical drugs which deal with psychiatric problems.  And aspartame is a very good, in fact, itís very similar to cocaine in a sense.  It makes the people hyper.  And it can also cause seizures in a lot of people.  So, once they come off this, youíll find that the hyperness goes away and so do the seizures.  Itís a very potent drug.


Jackie: Oh, it causes cancer tumors, brain tumors, and all kinds of things.† Itís totally destructive.


Alan: But Rumsfeld, heís always been a main salesman for the big chemical companies.  In fact, the CBC television after 9/11 showed when the US was selling the various chemical weaponry to Iraq, back in the 70s, it was Mr. Rumsfeld they showed you shaking hands with Saddam Hussein.  He was over there to sell them all these weapons.  And when heís not selling lethal weapons openly, heís flogging other weaponry through your food or your drink.  This is what you have at the top of your government.  We have tyrants at the moment. 


Jackie: What is your prime ministerís name?


Alan: Oh, at the moment, itís Mr. Martin.


Jackie: I knew, I remembered the Paul.  I couldnít remember his last name.


Alan: And his father owned the main Canadian, they still call it the steamship company, that does international cargo trading.  So they made their money off governmental projects where the taxpayers paid for cargoes of grain or food or whatever to other countries.  All the boys at the top are interlinked through the same very, very high Masonic organizations, way above, way above your 33 degrees.


Jackie: You know, Alan, I know, because we could just keep repeating and repeating and repeating, and itís coming to the point where people hear it, and if they donít do their own research, if they donít believe it, and they donít do their own research so they can see that itís so, then it is too late.  And this is way off topic, and maybe it isnít.  I was talking to Amber today, and she was telling me that she made character council.  This is a twelve-year-old girl, okay.  I said, well, what is character council?  Well, we teach character.  I said, are you telling me that they have twelve-year-old children teaching character?  I said, at twelve years old youíre building your character.  Donít you think thatís a pretty big responsibility, honey?  That youíre going to be teaching other people character and what does it mean?  And then she said, well, we just get together and we plan dances and stuff.  And I said, well, like student council?  Yeah, it used to be student council, and now itís character council.  So, I looked it up on the internet.  Itís a damn international not-for-profit organization.  International, and they named all the states that are character states.  They named the cities within the states, the counties within the states, and they named the countries that are, that are....


Alan: Promoting it.


Jackie: Promoting it, Alan.  Now, folks, let me say this.  If you have children in school, by hook or by crook, any way that you can, if you, it sounds stupid to say if you love your child, but isnít that part of what loving is, or the main thing when a child is a child, Alan, is protecting those children?


Alan: Itís supposed to be, yeah.


Jackie: And they have to be taken out of the schools, because, youíll lose them, unless it doesnít matter to you.  You will lose them.  They will lose their minds, because their minds are being stolen.  And I just wanted to say this about that.


Alan: Well, see, youíre not going to stop this, because this all part of a....


Jackie: I didnít say stopping it.  Iím talking about people who are listening to this broadcast right now, Alan.


Alan: Yeah, but what Iím trying to say, Jackie, is that people have been saying the same thing for a hundred years.  Because when Bertrand Russell brought his first book out on this very subject, he was part of the experimenters for these schools.  And he brought it out in 1905.  Of course, the media went into action.  There were still some people who had a voice in those days, and they said the same thing, that this was an attempt, it was more than an attempt, it was a plan.  And Bertrand Russell said it, he said, if we can get the children for even four hours a day, he said, away from their parents in kindergarten, he said, we can indoctrinate them with the new values for the world.  And he said the parental input will be of no effect, because we are using scientific, socialistic, indoctrination techniques.  So this was known for a hundred years.  And people have been bashing at this for a hundred years.  And then, at the same time, you know yourself that most people are so dependent on this only system that theyíve been given Ė thereís no alternative to it Ė that they either canít afford private schooling, or theyíre run off their feet trying just to pay their home and their car and all the rest of it.  So theyíre trapped within the system.  And the law says you must send your child to school, one way or another.


Jackie: No, the law does not say that.


Alan: Well, teach them, regardless.  But the fact is, you know that theyíve made it almost impossible for the average person to teach themselves, teach the children themselves.  So, youíre up against a monster that goes over the future like generals over a battle plan.  And they look at all the possible conflicts, the repercussions, and they literally plug every hole.  And thatís where we are with this.


Jackie: No child left behind.


Alan: In the Communist system, in the Soviet system, the whole Soviet Bolshevik system was planned at least a hundred years before they took over, because they knew exactly how to set up the system they had in mind.  There was no debating about it.  They went into action immediately. And they had children in the Young Communist movement doing exactly the same thing, and that was going around the schools and so on, twelve year olds, ones who were specially hand-picked, and it was just political correctness.  It was the new agenda of the day.  And they were basically parroting what theyíd been told.  They had little gold stars or red stars for saying the right things, and of course, that was being promoted.  You can call it whatever you want, itís the same program.  Itís the same program, under a thousand names.  So, youíre under attack from a thousand directions right now. And your eyes cannot be everywhere at once.  And thatís what Iím saying.  Thatís where we are right now, in the whirlpool.  And you canít even keep up with whatís happening.


Jackie: I know.


Alan: So, the international system has been established, you know.  Itís actually been here for a long time.  And they simply kept the borders there and the pretense of nations, so they could keep taxing you.  Thatís basically it.  And the US is simply finishing off the last vestige of a different type of system in the Middle East.  And once thatís done, well the British Israel and the Identity movements and all the other gofers will have no jobs to do.  Theyíll be equal down to the peasant of China.  Thatís where theyíll be.


Jackie: Oh, the peasants of China are doing well today.


Alan: Yeah, because now the new catchphrase theyíre using on the media is that gee, we must compete with China.  Well, thatís a race to the bottom.  And thatís whatís being promoted right now.  And anybody with any part of gray matter left in their brains that still has a spark in it, must know that if we try and compete with labor in China, our standard of living is obviously going to plummet.  And thatís exactly what is planned.  Thatís exactly what is planned.


Jackie: China, I read about a magnificent, whatever we would call it, where the elite go to vacation now.  And when I read that, it gave me chills, because you can see how China is being promoted to be, what?  I just guess the destroyer?


Alan: Well, they have to, according to the 1937 minutes of the meetings they held in Melbourne, Australia, for the Royal Institute of International Affairs and the CFR, and I have their books.  They said, in 1937, China would be the sole manufacturer of all goods for the planet.  And when they said that, China was a third world nation.  Thatís how far back they had this planned for China.  They even talked about the coming war with Germany, and that they must save the Soviet system by all costs.  They didnít explain why.  Escott Reid from Toronto, who helped draw up the charter for the UN with Alger Hiss, the Communist, so this Canadian, Escott Reid, put his own memoirs out.  And I have the book from 1937, where his kin even said, we are here to discuss a global system, a World Government.  This was all discussed in 1937, in Melbourne, Australia.  And I have a list of all the politicians from America, from the US, from Canada, from all over the world who attended it, because their names are all in the back of the book.  We are simply living through a script written long, long ago.  And in that same book, in the 1937 one, they even had the immigration quotas from China, right up until the year 2000 and just after, that they would need to be the middlemen for the trade goods, for smoothing out the trade difficulties between China and North America.  They had the quotas of immigrants they would need, for the West Coast of Canada, like Vancouver.  So, thatís how detailed they make their plans.  And when you find this stuff, and you go through, and you check up what theyíve done, they tally exactly.  They know exactly where.  The world is just one big business program.  Thatís all it is.  Itís a business agenda, and we are the business.  The business means buzz.  We are the bees, you know.  And of course, thatís what weíre here for.


Jackie: We are the economic units.


Alan: Yeah.† Weíre living a script, a business plan, and weíre going through it.  And, as we go through the Age of Chaos, which they said theyíd bring on, thereís no better way than to bring all of this, this whole brand new way of living that will emerge out of the other side.  Thatís what they keep telling us.  A completely different way of living, as they bring us into the vortex, and to bring us through it, or the ones who will come through it, they have everybody fighting everybody else on petty nonsense from a previous age.  This has been done before.  And theyíre doing exactly the same thing again.  The intellects way above the politicians are way beyond people that youíve met in your daily life.  These are real intellects here.  We canít dismiss that.  These are not politicians above the ones that we generally see.  These are the rulers.  And these people have minds almost like computers.  And they have no compassion, whatsoever.  And I mean no compassion on an individual or even a national or even a global scale.  They will do whatever it takes, as they keep telling us, the end justifies the means.  In other words, if they need part of this agenda rushed through, theyíll do whatever it takes to make it so.  And the Twin Towers was nothing to them.  These are the same characters that brought on Pearl Harbor and World War II.


Jackie: And sunk the Maine.


Alan: Yeah.  And meanwhile, everybody is fighting everybody else over religion, or the race issue, and all the other stuff that they know so well.  Theyíre old tunes they can keep playing over and over.  And everyone has been programmed to dance to these tunes when it plays, and they do.  And they canít see beyond it all.  And this is the time now when you must see beyond it all, if thereís going to be any survival for anybody at all.  Because weíre going through it. 


Jackie: What about people, well, look at even with yourself, Alan, as you were talking about last night.  Youíre not sure youíre even going to be able to survive the winter.


Alan: Thatís right.


Jackie: And there are people, so youíre not in the city.† But, of course, theyíre making it nearly impossible for people to live in the country, because of the increase in gas.


Alan: And taxes.


Jackie: To get you to the store.  The property taxes are increasing.


Alan: Environmental laws. 


Jackie: Well, yes.  And it goes on and on.  And then we have people who are in the cities and do not have the means to leave the cities, as much as they would desire and want to do it.  So, you know, it comes back down to making the time, to be like parents with their families, Alan.  With their families.  They have to work.  They have to work to be able to pay the bills.  But, instead, maybe, of parents sloughing the children off to a babysitter, so they can go.  Maybe the most important thing that people can do today is to be together, and really, just cherish the time, every precious moment, and give to your children, not $80 tennis shoes and trips to Six Flags and Disney World, because that isnít really what children want anyway, Alan. 


Alan: No, thatís what the system wants.


Jackie: That isnít what they want at all.  They want their parents to look at them and see them.  They want their parents to hear them when they talk.  Not just listen, but really hear them.


Alan: Well, what they need is direction.  And children who donít get direction from their parents will take it as they did in the Communist system, in the Young Communist movement.  Theyíll take it from the leaders.  The Hitler Youth were the same, because children need direction.  And if they canít get it from their parents, the state or the system will give it to them instead.  Thatís traditional.  Thatís been used for thousands of years.  Again, itís another tune, and they know how to play it, and we know how to dance.


Jackie: Well, you mentioned Bertrand Russell.† And Iíve done this before, but Iíll do it again.  The statement that he made, he was a, maybe still is, I donít know, but at this time a UNESCO advisor.  He said, "it may be hoped that in time anybody will be able to persuade anybody of anything, if he can catch the patient young, and is provided by the state with money and equipment."


Alan: Well, the two main books, and anybody who wants them and can read it all today, apart from a glowing tube in front of their face, they can order them.  And itís Roads to Freedom, is the one book, that gives you the global agenda with adults and children, and Education and the Good Life, is the one about the whole education program that they have used right up until the present time.  And thatís got it all in there.  All of it. 


Jackie: Well, thereís one more sentence here that I want to do, for our listeners.  He said, when the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in control of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen.


Alan: Yeah, once you all have a brain chip, thereís no problem.  I mean, thatís what the function of all this is. 


Jackie: Roads to Freedom and Education and the Good Life


Alan: Yeah, the whole scientific technique.  He put out another book, it was on science, basically, and he laid the whole thing down, to do with scientific techniques, including the same stuff as Aldous Huxley was on about, the brain chip and so on, and how they could use all this to control everybody.  And once that happened, the people had no individuality in them, then theyíd have their utopia.  But they, the elite themselves, would not change themselves.  Thatís what they said, because they must retain their survival capabilities, but the public wonít need them anymore, since the state will be making all their decisions for them.


Jackie: What do you say to a person who calls you and says, Iím not sure what to do, Iím beginning to see the light and itís very frightening.  What do you say to them, Alan?


Alan: It depends who they are.


Jackie: Well, okay.  What would you say to me? 


Alan: Again, itís not something you sum up in a couple of minutes.  You go through the whole person.  Youíve got to get the persona and the person.  Youíve got to break down all the different parts of that person, and then give a response thatís suitable to that individual person.  You canít give the same talk to every individual.  You must tailor-make truth to jump over the hurdles that that person has in their particular individual mind.  And everyone has a different response to things, and they have different hurdles or walls in their mind, so you must literally tailor-make it for the individual, so that they can jump those walls themselves.  And it must be done by themselves.  You can show them how, but it must be done by them.  Thatís why it takes a lot of work for every single one.  But I should mention the three books before we go off the air.† Theyíre called Cutting Through 1, 2, & 3.  And I go through the ancient Freemasonry system, prior to the guild movements of the Middle Ages, and right up to the present day.  I give you a lot of the Masonic coding thatís used.  Itís all through your language; in fact they created your language for you.  And the third one goes through the history of this, as well as the history of the money system which they brought in thousands of years ago, and how they used it to implement their system, which they call civilization.  Thatís what they mean by it.  Itís their system.  And how they control nations one by one, through takeovers, financial or through using warfare.  [See ordering information on transcript.]  But thatís what Iím saying.  You canít just give a pat answer for a mass of people, because everyone has their own particular walls and variations of them, in their mind.  And you have to literally go through dozens of them with each one.  And you must be able to see into that person, in order to do so.  And that takes a lot of work. 


Jackie: And youíve done that with people?


Alan: Yes, and as I say, itís a lot of work. And it can take years sometimes, on a one to one basis with many, many different people, but individually, one on one, to get them right up and out of it. 


Jackie: And then what happens when they get out of it, Alan?


Alan: Then itís a whole new journey from there on.  And again, you donít hand that truth to everybody either.  You just donít hand out truth.  Most people canít handle the truth.  Some things are very, very, very precious.  And most people are so stuck in what they want themselves that they canít handle the truth.  And thatís what they mean, they trample it underfoot, because they donít see it for what it is.  So you donít hand it to them until theyíre ready for it.


Jackie:  Well, weíve sure been doing enough of it. 


Alan: Weíve done an awful lot.  More so, Iíd say, than any other program.  And we certainly donít do it as a business.  Thatís for sure.


Jackie: Thatís for sure.  And folks, weíre out of our week.


Alan's Materials Available for Purchase and Ordering Information:


"Cutting Through"
  Volumes 1, 2, 3


"Waiting for the Miracle....."
Also available in Spanish or Portuguese translation: "Esperando el Milagro....." (Español) & "Esperando um Milagre....." (Português)


Ancient Religions and History MP3 CDs:
Part 1 (1998) and Part 2 (1998-2000)


Blurbs and 'Cutting Through the Matrix' Shows on MP3 CDs (Up to 50 Hours per Disc)


"Reality Check Part 1"   &   "Reality Check Part 2 - Wisdom, Esoterica and ...TIME"