August 17th, 2005
Alan Watt on
"Sweet Liberty" with Jackie Patru
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Jackie Patru: Good evening.  Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty.  Today is the 17th of August.  Is that right, Alan? 


Alan: It is.


Jackie: It is August the 17th, folks, in the year 2005.  And it is, of course, the end of our broadcast week.  Weíre here Monday through Wednesday, and WFAR has a new satellite, and I was going to get it, and I am so sorry that I just now thought about it.  For those of you, I guess people who are listening on satellite know it then, because I know that itís been announced.  But I will get it, and I will share it with you, for those of you who prefer, if you have a CBAND satellite, who prefer to do that.  Alan is back with us tonight.  Actually, I had told Alan this afternoon that it was going to be you and me tonight, folks, because I had stuff I wanted to share with you, and I canned today.  I havenít canned in three years, because, for the last two years, the garden has just been totally drowned out.  And I got 17 pints of delicious pickle relish today, from my homegrown cucumbers.  And it was a thrill, but I had forgotten how long a process it is and all the steps that we have to go through to get that done.  And it was about 5 minutes till the hour of nine, before I filled that last jar.  So, Alan graciously, when I called him, said, of course, he will be on with us, and here he is.  And Alan, thank you.


Alan: Itís a pleasure. 


Jackie: Our spiritual message, and I didnít want to forget this, and I did.  This would be from Psalm 139, folks.  "Search me father, and know my heart.  Test me and know my anxious thoughts.  See if there is any offensive way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting." Thatís from Psalm 139, verses 23 and 24.  Know thyself.  Jesus said there is nothing more to know.   And maybe thatís our whole mission here in a sense, Alan. 


Alan: I think it is, because, I mean even though a lot of the Psalms were taken from the Egypt wisdom writings, thereís a lot of truth in there.  But when you were saying, search me father, I was seeing in my mind, search me government, because you see these black-clad guys searching people all over the place now.


Jackie: I know.  You said that the last time I did this.


Alan: And of course, theyíre looking for anything they can find as well thatís out of the ordinary, even your opinions.  So, weíre certainly going through the opposite side you might say of what was given thousands of years ago.  Theyíve reversed it, and now the government, or the state, or the world state is really in charge.  And weíre seeing the misery that it can produce.  But weíre just at the beginning, at least in the Western countries, of the beginning of misery.


Jackie: You know, Alan, the one thing I keep in mind, and youíve said this before, that this plan is millennia old.† Itís been forever going on.  And theyíve never been totally successful.  And it doesnít mean just because of what it looks like to us right now, I just, it canít.  I mean, Iím not saying that we should just sit back and say, oh, it ainít going to happen, but to be aware of what they have in store, what their intentions are.  We see whatís happening.  I mean, itís like the price of gas right now.  And it just keeps going up and up and up, and as you said, you know, when I mentioned, well, you know, everybody is complaining, but, we only complain to each other, because where do you go?  And in this system.


Alan: Thereís no complaints department.


Jackie: Thereís no complaint department in this system.  So, I am not trying to make light of what we see, and what weíve learned, that their intention for us and for this world is.  And yet, things happen.  For example, I donít know if youíve heard this.  Maybe itís been talked about on other broadcasts.  The lady, who went to Texas, whoís in Crawford, Texas, camping out, protesting the death of her son, in Iraq, because she knows that her son died for nothing.  He died because of lies.  And now hundreds, and hundreds, and hundreds of people, parents of these soldiers that have been killed are coming to support this cause.  And there evidently is a group in California, that had started what they called Arlington West, Arlington Cemetery West.  And what they did, is they made wooden crosses, and theyíve made a graveyard of all the names that they know of the soldiers that have been killed.  Thereís about 2,000 of them now, I guess, and Alan, I think probably that count is probably half of, and of course, it doesnít even bring in all of the ones that come back missing limbs, legs, and arms, and half of a face, and etc.  But anyway, because of what this lady is doing, and sheís just sitting there very peaceably, well, the people in California, moved their Arlington West cemetery to Texas.  And theyíve got, thereís a website I was reading it today, in fact, Iím going to send it to Darren to ask him to post it on  But what they did, is they put all of these crosses down the road, in a ditch, and you know, one by one by one by one by one, and there are more and more people coming all the time.  And those are the kinds of things, people that are not just sitting back.  People, maybe this woman doesnít know diddly-squat about a long-range plan, but what sheís doing from her heart is protesting the sin, the crime, of what is happening to the young men and women that are killing and dying for the New World Order.  And that kind of stuff is uplifting.


Alan: Yeah, I think thatís one of the reasons theyíre going to rush forward with their plans for Iran, and try and get it over and done with before anything else happens back home, you know. 


Jackie: Well, and then there was that email I got that Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico, and I went to the website of the state government of New Mexico, and itís there.  When I first read it, I wondered if somebody just made it up.  He issued an executive order, calling an emergency to protect their borders there, I think four counties there at the line, the Mexican border.  And one of the statements he made in the press release was that the federal government is doing little or nothing, and that something has to be done.  Now, theyíre still trying to work with the federal government, but they mentioned, you know, besides the illegal aliens that are swarming across our borders, stolen and killed cattle, and drug running, and this type of a thing.  Now, I donít know if thereís more to that.  Iím sorry to say this.  Maybe Iím becoming jaded, but I think thereís more to it just than this guy, because I donít know any governors that arenít in the pockets of, you know, the controllers.


Alan: Well, it isnít as though theyíve just noticed.† This has been going on for years.  And Iím sure there will be some other government rule, or law, ready to get it put into place; it was probably all drawn up long before he came up with this.† And it will effect probably everybody in the US, rather than just the ones who are coming across the border into the US.  Thereís got to be something else behind it.


Jackie: There probably is, but for right now, it looks good.  Letís put it that way.  And weíll watch it.  Weíll watch to see.


Alan: Because George Bush has already signed the unification of the Americas, back in March, with the two prime ministers, one from Mexico and one from Canada.  So, we know the federal scheme.  And this guy has to be in on it, you know. 


Jackie: Or he wouldnít be alive today, Alan.


Alan: He wouldnít be alive.  And he had to have known when they signed the unification.  Well, it happened, you know, down his way, when they went down and signed it anyway.  Heíd have to have known about it.  They wouldnít leave him out of it.  So, thereís another reason behind it, for sure. 


Jackie: I think there probably is.  In fact, as I said earlier today, it could even be something as simple as a close friend of his owned a ranch that got raided or something.  Well maybe not.


Alan: Either that, or the drug drops didnít work out properly, and theyíre peeved.


Jackie: You know, his name is Bill Richardson.† Well, I just noticed this.  And what I want to look into, it probably isnít the same person, but there was a Senator, Bill Richardson, from California, and he was the same one that wrote the book when he was a state Senator, titled, "So You Think We Read the Laws", "You Think We Read the Bills" it was supposed to be, it was supposed to be humorous.  But it really basically told about, you know, how the state legislatures, they donít know what the heck theyíre doing, and they just rubber-stamp everything.  He was also the one that started, the other Bill Richardson, and I donít know if this is the same guy, but seems like I saw a picture of that Bill Richardson, and this guy looked like him, to me, from my memory.  He started gun owners of America.  And of course, thatís another shill organization, phony conservative, Larry Pratt, who heads it up, of course, is a long-time member of the Council for National Policy.


Alan: And also the big family that started up the CFR in the US for the Royal Institute of International Affairs, was the Pratt family. 


Jackie: Oh, youíre kidding.


Alan: I wonder if heís related.


Jackie: Oh, now wouldnít that be interesting to check out.


Alan: In fact, their main record house in New York is actually called the Pratt House.


Jackie: Pratt House, yes, it is.


Alan: You always find the same family names cropping up down through history, over and over and over.  So, I wouldnít be surprised.  The thing is, I mean, thereís nothing hidden about the agenda, because itís all been well documented by many of the people involved, who were all for it.  H.G. Wells back in the early 1900s called it The Open Conspiracy, because anybody could get the material and the future by simply reading the books that they put out themselves.  And he went through the entire agenda, leading to the air police, he called them, where the air police would simply bomb all those countries or gas them, actually, or spray them from the skies, until they conformed to world government.  And itís to be a world government run by scientists and experts.  And everybody would be subject to them.  So, this is well documented, thereís nothing....


Jackie: Who was this, Alan?


Alan: H.G. Wells.  And he worked for MI5.  He was a spokesman for the British government.  He was a propagandist actually.  And, of course, most people know him for his science fiction writings, and even those were actually, it was a form of predictive programming, they called it, to program the public, through novels, of what was to come.  That way, when it really does happen, youíre sort of familiar with the ideas, and you accept them more readily as being inevitable.  But he wrote an awful lot of books, which were non-fiction, and he was getting all the material for both of those types of books, from professors at Oxford University and Cambridge, and he just had to write a sort of story around them, to get them over to the public.  But he was the main propagandist for World War I for Britain.  And he coined the phrase, because they were running short of troops.  They couldnít get enough cannon fodder, with the heavy machine guns, which, Maxim, Henry Maxim sold to the German side and it was Lord Vicars, went in partnership with the same guy, who sold them to the British and the French.


Jackie: Now who was he?  Was he an American or what?


Alan: Vicars was English.


Jackie: He was British.


Alan: So, Vicars and Maxim formed a company based in Switzerland, a neutral country.  And they knew the war was coming up, because their peer group had told them so.  And so, they sold these heavy machine guns to all sides, and made a massive profit.  You might say they made a killing, you know.  And, of course, they werenít prosecuted for it.  And Vicars was promoted from being a Sir to a Lord, for his part in it.  But anyway, H.G. Wells coined the term, because they were running short of men, the War to End All Wars.  That was to get the young idealists to join up.


Jackie: In other words, weíll go fight for this, and then weíll have World Peace from now on.


Alan: Thatís Utopia.† So, he wrote a book called The Open Conspiracy, and goes through the whole agenda.


Jackie: I read a piece today, when I pulled up my email.  Somebody wrote, I didnít read the whole thing, I do a lot of skimming, scanning, whatever, but, it was somebody who had mentioned.  Oh, I know, it was a website.  I tried to go there too, and wasnít able to get into it.  But, whoever wrote it, mentioned that the wars, that mentioned the Christians, that all the versions that there are of the Bible, every single one of them is the word of God, and not to be questioned.  And made that point, and that all of these wars are right out of the Old Testament.  Because the Old Testament is full of nothing but wars, Alan. 


Alan: Oh, of course itís all wars, because thatís the system.  See, this is a system that was developed thousands of years ago, based on money, not food or anything else.  Money controls everything.  And weíre all trained to work for money, not to work for food or clothing, or whatever.  Weíre self-maintained slaves.  We buy all our own stuff, and the rest of it goes to our betters in taxes.  So, itís a system, but the Bible has been tampered with, heavily.  Old Testament is OT which is also the Order of Templars.  We should remember that to begin with.  And itís the Black Book.  Black is law in the Talmud.  And Black is also law in the Kabbala.


Jackie: Well, and Moses Mendelssohn was quoted as saying that Judaism is not a religion, it is a law religionized.


Alan: Well, all of them are.  All of them end up in laws, based on it, and really whether they call it religion or whatever.  If you go to the 46th psalm, see the number 10....


Jackie: And folks, when Alan says Sam, we pronounce it Salm.  I just, that confused me when you were talking about that before.


Alan: Okay.  Yeah, if you get six and four, or four and six, you get ten.  So, all combinations that work out to ten are the binary code, which is very high in High Masonic Coding.  You get the 46th one, and you count from the first word forward and youíll find the word, "shake".  Then, forget "selah" at the bottom, which just means, make it so.  Thatís put on to all of them.  Forget that one, and count backwards, 46, and youíll find spear, Shakespeare, in there.


Jackie: Say, okay, would you repeat that one more time?  Iím making notes, but I didnít get it all.  46 psalm. 


Alan: Count forward, 46 words.


Jackie: 46 words forward.


Alan: Youíll get Shake.  Then you take, from the bottom, the end, forget selah, which is like amen, added on to it.  And count 46 back, and youíll get spear. 


Jackie: Okay, you go to the end of the 46 psalm.  So you start from the front, go 46 forward, you get Shake.  Go all the way to the back, count 46 back, and you get spear. 


Alan: And thatís a little Masonic joke, right in there you see.


Jackie: No, but you know what.  There have been books written about Bible Code, and what they do is show that this could not have been done by man. 


Alan: Thatís nonsense.


Jackie: No, I know that.  Excuse me.  I shouldnít have said show.  They use it as proof.


Alan: I know.


Jackie: That this could not have been done by man, because thereís too many of these types of codes in the Old Testament, because, Iíll tell you, when I read this, it was very astounding to me.  And now, it makes sense.


Alan: It was a joke.  I mean, Bacon, Francis Bacon is claimed by the High Masons, was also Shakespeare, which makes a lot of sense, because the history of Shakespeare, who basically, with all of the 180,000 words he came out with in his plays, that were new words, he created the English language.  Thatís how they put it over.  And then the Bible, the King James Bible, reinforced that, because prior to those days, people were speaking, in England, they were speaking Old Saxon German.  That was the language.  So they created a new language and Bacon wrote about it in his own memoirs.  He said, we are creating the international language of the future, to be called English.


Jackie: Francis Bacon, does his name have anything to do with Ham?


Alan: Actually, itís a play.  Frank is Red, like Franklin, Benjamin Franklin.  The term even in medicine for bright red blood is called frank.  Frank blood, you see.  And so, you have Ben, which is son, Jamin, which is I am in high Masonic coding.


Jackie: Benjamin? 


Alan: I am the son of the red.  Thatís what it means, the red way.


Jackie: But what about Francis Bacon, that world Bacon?


Alan: Well, heís the same red, and thereís two ways there.  Youíve got a beacon, which is like a lighthouse, you might say, Illuminati.  And Illuminati did not begin with Weishaupt, because even the old Oxford dictionaries say itís a movement which first began to be noticed, or put its head above water around the 13th Century AD in England.


Jackie: Douglas Reed suggested that possibly, that Weishaupt received it from the Knights Templars.


Alan: Weishaupt got it from the Royalty of Europe.  When he was, itís in the official history books, when he was chased out of Bavaria, he sought refuge and was granted refuge in the House of Saxe-Gotha.  The present Queen of England, her full name is Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.  So, they gave him a pension, in Saxe-Gotha, which was a part of Germany.  And they gave him a life-long pension to live there, and he lived there till he died.  So why would royalty grant Weishaupt, who was supposed to overthrow everybody, why would they grant him refuge there and a pension to live on, unless they had put him up there in the first place, to cause the revolution.  Thatís the key to it.  These particular royal families eventually came over to England, and they took over England as well.  They all traced their roots back to Prussia.  But thatís the official history, you know.  And Weishaupt is a pseudonym for Wise Leader, thatís what it means.


Jackie: Wise Leader.  ...The way that he explained it, he didnít say that Weishaupt got it from the Templars.  He just suggested that possibly.  But he explained how itís set up in cells, and that the people on one level, they just take orders from the person just above them.  And they donít know anything else thatís going on. 


Alan: Itís still part of Freemasonryís oaths today.  Itís said that you must obey immediately an order by a superior degree, and put your own moral judgment and opinions in reserve. You must carry out the order, regardless. 


Jackie: And when you take a look at it, kind of from above, like a birdís eye view of it, first of all, it does make sense.  You know, the fact that so many of their minions that are carrying out the plan, theyíre only given like an Nth degree.  They have no idea.  They may be given an ostensible reason why theyíre doing a particular job or something.  And they could be working alongside of other agents, that are doing their own part of it, and neither of them know that theyíre agents.


Alan: Very often thatís the case.


Jackie: Okay.  And then, when you look at the whole thing, and you have the CIA and CSIS and the Mossad, and you know, all of the Secret Services in every country, then you see that itís all, I see it like a puppet master up there.  Thatís what I see in my mindís eye, just pulling the strings on all of them.  It is a global spy network.


Alan: Oh, it is, it is.


Jackie: Itís a global spy network.


Alan: Every part is compartmentalized from the department above it.  And thatís why theyíre all kept in the dark, except for their own little role or mission, and as you say, you can work, you could actually be working and thereís guys above you sabotaging your work, you know.  And youíd never know.  And those guys would have higher clearances than you, and all you would be told is the word would come down to leave it alone, donít go any further. 


Jackie: And not only that, but they actually kill each other, thinking that theyíre killing an enemy.  So, talk about minions, Alan.  Pawns in a game.


Alan: Sure, and thatís the whole thing with secrecy of any kind.  Secrecy always is used for subterfuge and power.  Thatís the reason for secrecy.  And Secret Services are at the top of the whole list.  And as I said before, Peter Wright, who was in MI5 and MI6, in his own book said that when he joined MI5 as a specialist, they took it for granted that he was a Freemason, and the woman who basically was stamping his cards for him, his IDs said, you must be a Freemason.  He says, oh, no.  She says, well, thatís impossible, everybody that works here is a Freemason.  So, he said it in his own book.  And thatís the same in Russia.  Trotsky said in his own memoirs, My Life, he said, I was initiated into Freemasonry while in prison.  And when he died, or was assassinated, he was writing what he called, he said it would be the greatest volume on Freemasonry ever written.  So he was going to, probably through his own ego, start to expose some things which he shouldnít expose.  And he said, when he was escorted from Russia, because he was ordered out, his guards crossed different borders by giving Masonic signs to the opposing guards in different countries.  So, thereís the brotherhood at work, even at all the different guard posts.  No questions were asked. 


Jackie: Do you think itís true Ė Iíve heard this and read it Ė that if a person goes into court, that if they have some of the Masonic positions and etc, that if they can project that to the judge, that the judge will be lenient with them.


Alan: Yes.  Itís their law.


Jackie: Their law.


Alan: They cannot deny a fellow Freemason in distress.


Jackie: Well that would be, then it would behoove us to get some of their little, well, not a handshake, because youíre not going to be shaking hands with the judge, but some of their little sayings and phrases and positions.  Like Jack Benny.  Remember how.  We have to take a break right now.  Folks, weíre going to be back right after this, with Alan Watt.  Stay with us.


(Commercial Break)


Jackie: Alright, weíre back with Alan Watt.  Alan, you and I were going to on the break monitor our shortwave radios, and I forgot to do that.  Did you happen to flip yours on?


Alan: I didnít; I didnít plug it in, even.


Jackie: You didnít even plug it.  Yeah, okay.  Maybe weíre losing our memories, Alan.


Alan: Could be, yeah.


Jackie: Anyway, folks, I wanted to remind you.  I mentioned this last night.  I donít know how weíre coming in.  The one big one that I get constantly is that I am overmodulated.  My voice is overmodulated, which I donít understand, because I understood the engineer, Jason, at WWCR, to say that they were getting a beautiful clear, crisp signal, from the satellite.  And if itís going in that way, it should be coming out that way.


...Alright.  We were talking about the Masonic hand symbols or signals and stuff.  And I mentioned Jack Benny.  And remember how he used to stand with his arm crossed over his chest, and then his elbow on his hand, and then heíd hit the side of his face.  I was told that thatís the Masonic symbol of the square. 


Alan: It is.  Youíll see a lot of people, famous people, including Stalin and Napoleon, with their hand across the chest and the right angle.


Jackie: No, but I mean, do you remember, did you ever see Jack Benny on TV?


Alan: Oh, yeah.


Jackie: Okay.  It wasnít, it didnít have like the right hand up across, but it was like really a square, because his hand, his arm, the forearm went across the chest.  And then his elbow was rested on that hand, and then his other hand was against his face.  But I was told that thatís a Masonic....


Alan: You see it every time world leaders meet on television.  Youíll see Mr. Bush greet Tony Blair, or whoever.  They did it with Arafat too, so theyíre all Masons.  And itís toe to toe, knee to knee.  And of course, itís hand to hand, then your left hand goes to the elbow, then behind the back, hand to back, and they hug each other, and then they whisper in each otherís ear.  And thatís the five physical points of Freemasonry.  So, you see it all the time, with all the world leaders.  Theyíre all Masons.


Jackie: What if somebody was standing before a judge in a court room?  What could they do or say?


Alan: As a real last resort, if you really are in the wrong, and you want mercy....


Jackie: Iím not saying, no, forget it.  Very few people that go into court are in the wrong.


Alan: Youíre talking about Masons. 


Jackie: Iím talking Freemasonry.


Alan: And Iím just telling you that thatís what you do as a last resort as a Freemason, apart from having a word with the Sheriffís Clerk, heís more important than the judge.


Jackie: The Sheriffís Clerk?


Alan: Thatís right.  And then you go before the Judge.  And if the Judge still didnít quite clue in, as a last resort, you try your Joseph Smith thing, of the Mormons, because you throw your hands up in the air, as a Y, the letter Y, and you say is there no one here to help a widowís son.  And thatís the final plea for mercy, and he must grant you it.


Jackie: What about just a person thatís in court, and shouldnít be there, but is?  That would be a final plea.  But is there anything that can be done or said, that would let the judge know?


Alan: It all goes through the Sheriff, beforehand.  Thatís traditional, in every country.  In every single country, you have a word with the Sheriff, and you tell him, and heíll say, Iíll see what I can do.  Thatís why youíll see some cases drag on, petty little cases.  And other ones, the same type of thing is dismissed right away.  Thatís been going on for hundreds of years.  And itís no different today.  And so many of the public who are....


Jackie: And the Judge has to give you leniency?


Alan: Yeah, once youíre a brother, and you let them know youíre a brother, and youíre in bad straits, etc, and this will upset your reputation, or whatever, or your job.  They must grant you mercy, and it will be dismissed.  And men, of course...  see, the only thing that you can do wrong as a Mason, is to break a Masonic rule against your fellow brother Masons.  What you do to the public is almost irrelevant.  And youíre allowed to have intercourse with anybodyís wife, as long as itís not a Freemasonís.  Thatís in their rules.


Jackie: Even the judgeís wife?


Alan: No, not with a fellow masonís.


Jackie: Oh, that would be wrong.  Oh, yeah. 


Alan: Then you wouldnít be tried in a court for it, youíd be tried on the square, inside the Masonic lodge.  So, they have their own little courts for their own rules and laws.


Jackie: How does one get a hold of the Clerk?


Alan: Oh, you just go in and see them.  You just ask to see them.  And theyíll give you little clues.


Jackie: What about a woman?  I mean, does a woman count too?


Alan: Well, if sheís in the Eastern Star, although theyíre all side degrees, that counts as well.  Especially if theyíre at the heads of different charitable organizations, which theyíre encouraged to do.  So, sure.  It counts for them, as well.  And thatís why the public are so confused when they see the same types of cases, same supposed charges, and five of them are dismissed as soon as the personís name is read out and the charge, and other ones with the same charge go through two or three hours, and then get a fine or imprisonment.  Itís because ones are Masons and others are not.  Thatís traditional.  The court is a Masonic Lodge.  Itís set out that way.  And the bar is your bar between the peasantry and the man who sits as god.  He presides over the court.  He wears the Saturn, the black Saturn gown.  He is a god, you know.  So thatís how it is.  Now, getting back to Bacon though, I meant to mention too, that Bacon, when you break it down, is also B A Con.  You know, Con is a priest, a Cohen.† And so you have all that in the name.


Jackie: Well, I thought of ham, because youíve mentioned the name Ham before.  And when you mentioned, brought up Francis Bacon, the first thing I thought of was ham.


Alan: Oh, as ham and bacon.  (Chuckle)† But thatís how they hide their names and so on.  And William Shakespeare, the High Masons all claim, and Francis Bacon were one and the same person.  And of course, Bacon did help to write the King James Version.  King James was a High Mason himself.


Jackie: And a pervert.  A big-time pervert.


Alan: Yeah.  He chased the page boys all over the place.  That was his hobby.


Jackie: Well, the stuff Iíve read about him, it was even worse than that.


Alan: Oh, it was worse, all right.


Jackie: He rolled in the blood of dead animals, and had sex with cadavers. 


Alan: Well, I donít know if it was that bad, but he certainly chased the boys, and thatís the official Scottish history records.  They called him Shamey Jamie.


Jackie: Well, you know I think maybe I saw a movie one time, and I think it was one of those old movies that they show sometimes.  It seems it was in black and white.  And if Iím not mistaken, they showed him as a real mincing, feminine male. 


Alan: He also had a bad limp too.  And he was kind of deformed.  But, yeah, he was definitely homosexual.  There was nothing hidden about that.  He was married, but that was for offspring only, and that is not unusual.


Jackie: And that is the accepted and treasured and idolized and worshiped version of the Bible by many people.


Alan: Well, thatís the one that Jesus used.


Jackie: Oh, okay.  It seems to me, and I donít think that people think about it.  Or maybe they donít.  Maybe they do, but I donít think they do.  That they worship that book, a book, more than Creator.


Alan: Thatís why itís called The Holy Bible.  It is a book, but theyíve made it a sacred object.


Jackie: Well, Bible means book, doesnít it?


Alan: Yeah, but holy, holy.  I mean holy means itís sacred.  Now itís been deified as the book being sacred.† So youíre not supposed to worship any image.  And of course, how did they get the print onto those pages?  Itís called engraving.  Itís a graven image.† So, I mean, itís such a joke, you see. 


Jackie: Well, you know what.  It might seem like a joke to you.  I find it, Alan, I mean, itís a joke on us.  And I donít think itís a joke to you.  I think itís much more serious than that.  Because, I find it so, I donít know, just so deep, sad, that itís so easy to mold peopleís minds.


Alan: It always has been, and if they leave us unchanged, unmodified, it always will be.  Like Gorbachev, when he said, he said that the world has always been ruled by religion to keep the people obeying the governments.  And he said We, and heís an atheist, in the same book he admitted that.... 


Jackie: Gorbachev?


Alan: Yeah, Mikhail Gorbachev.  Towards a New Civilization was his book.  And in it, he says, we are now creating the new world religion, which will be based on Earth Worship.  So, hereís a guy who tells you heís an atheist, whoís in the business now of helping to create a world religion, to keep the public in check. So they understand this.


Jackie: He has offices in the Presidio in California.


Alan: Yes.  And he had that, if you check into the official license to operate, Mikhail Gorbachev was granted the license in the US, before he left Russia, and while he was still President of the Soviet Union.  So, there you go, everything is a farce, as itís presented to the public.  So, here he is, who was the head of the KGB, and the President of the Soviet Union, who was granted by the US government a license to reside in the US and operate this global governance little depot.  And they granted it to him while he was still the President of Russia.


Jackie: And he came over here, and people cheered him.


Alan: Well, actually, it was the greatest PR move ever done.  Maggie Thatcher was the first one to bring him over to Britain, Gorbachev and his wife.† And the press, years later, the press admitted that they had all agreed, your free press now, thatís there to inform you, all agreed not to ask any pertinent questions concerning Communism or the true state of the Soviets, but only to ask about his wifeís lipstick, her hairdo, what kind of hair salons they had in Russia, and where Mikhail Gorbachev had his nice light flashy looking suit, you know.  So that was a PR stunt.  And then, when they brought him over to the US, they did, after the same kind of publicity stunt, because the press in the US did exactly the same, they kept to their lines, they didnít ask any nasty questions.  And they did a poll survey, and they found that over 75% of the people in Britain and the US wouldnít mind if Gorbachev was their president one day.


Jackie: Oh my God.


Alan: Thatís in the books.


Jackie: You know what, weíre almost out of our hour.  And weíre, of course, out of our week, here.  One of the things that weíve discussed, and I would like you to take a few minutes to talk about it.  On Sweet Liberty we donít talk about the, oh, what Senator did this, and what, all of the little, you know, everyday things, because, basically, I mean, you could literally be broadcasting eight hours a day.


Alan: Or more, if you could stay awake.


Jackie: If you could stay awake.  And, will you comment on that, Alan.


Alan: Yeah, I mean, the nitty-gritty of who says what today and so on, I tend to ignore, because Iíve got an overview of the whole agenda, and thatís all anyone really needs.  I donít need to have the confirmation of the blow-by-blow daily stuff that the mainstream gives you, or certain shortwave broadcasters give you, because I tend to avoid the mainstream media, which is there simply to put you into a state of panic and subservience.  And when the shortwave picks up on the same daily themes of what theyíre doing to you today, and going to do to you tomorrow, it becomes overwhelming, which is itís object.  Itís meant to render you incapacitated basically through fear.


Jackie: And it does.


Alan: And it does.  Yeah, I mean, some people have phoned me up and theyíre immobilized.  And Iíve told some of them to slow down.  One I told to shut up.  I had to, because he was almost screaming with neurosis.  And I said, who do you listen to?  He told me who he listened to, on the shortwave.  And I said, you know, this is what psychological warfare is intended to do.  Itís meant to give you a nervous breakdown, so as you cannot function.  And I said, look, has anything nasty really happened to you yet?  He said, no.  I said, well, whatís your problem?  So, that is how panic and fear and terror, can incapacitate someone, if you get hooked on some of these superstars. 


Jackie: Well, and this is why I wanted to bring it up, because we donít do that type of broadcasting.  And I wanted our listeners to understand, hopefully, the value of the information that theyíre getting.  It is more of an overview.  It isnít all the nitty-gritty, but see, I can attest to what youíre saying, because back in 1992, somebody gave me a copy of the Machelvani Intelligence Advisor.  I think it was about 12 pages, Alan.  I was in my office.  I owned my business at the time, and I was working late.  And so, I opened it up and read it, and I sat there paralyzed.  And then I subscribed to it, got my first one, and went out and sat on the deck at home and read it, and I couldnít do anything for the rest of the day, because I thought, ĎOh my God.  What the heck do we think weíre doing?  Itís hopeless.  Itís gone too far.í  And folks, thatís what I wanted to bring up before the end of this broadcast, just so you know, why we donít, because itís all symptoms of the whole bigger picture.  Weíll be back with you, Monday.  And I hope you have a lovely next four days.  And I hope you will join us on Monday next.


Alan's Materials Available for Purchase and Ordering Information:


"Cutting Through"
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"Waiting for the Miracle....."
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Ancient Religions and History MP3 CDs:
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