Alan Watt on

"Sweet Liberty" with Jackie Patru

July 25, 2005 




Jackie:  Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Guess what? We're on time tonight. Isn't that a treat? It is for me and I suppose at least you'll appreciate it. Today is Monday. Thanks for being here with us tonight. It is the 25th of July and it just seems like the whole month of July passed me by like it was never here. I don't know about you, about the concept of time, it's weird. Anyway, it is the 25th of July in the year 2005 and our guest this evening is Alan Watt once again. I'm very appreciative of Alan coming on with us. I'm having some kind of a problem with my printer and there's information I've been wanting to share with you folks and I can't get it out of the printer and Alan was kind enough to come on here and keep this broadcast rolling. Alan Watt, thanks for being here tonight.


Alan:  Yes, it’s a pleasure.


Jackie:  So how has it been with you and what's up?


Alan:  Oh, just the very hot weather we're getting up here and the spraying of course. They've announced that there's going to be a storm tomorrow, so I watched them make it, spray it above me in preparation for the storm. That's how down pat they have this.


Jackie:  So they're actually calling for the weather tomorrow?


Alan:  Yes.


Jackie:  So you're watching them prepare the skies for the weather that they're calling for?


Alan:  That's right. It's quite something to watch them just go from east to west back and forth and lay on this odd looking – well, you've seen it. It's like someone stuck their hand in candy cane and just pull out big strands of it in different directions and some of them are different, plus the trails they leave behind them are spreading much faster than they used to.


Jackie:  You're talking like cotton candy, yes?


Alan:  That's right.


Jackie:  Cotton candy. They way they can wisp it out?


Alan:  Yes, and unlike normal clouds they go in all directions and have these long curling tails on them, so it's like living in a science fiction movie and or maybe a horror movie, because like horror movies most of the people involved don't know what's happening to them. That's the oddest thing about it.


Jackie:  I think I was telling you about this. I got an email and somebody was kind of doing an overview on all the stuff that's going on, a quick one with the chemtrails, the food additives, the genetically modified food, the vaccines. All the new and unique and sometimes unseemingly untreatable diseases, designer diseases, and then at the end of it he says gosh it almost seems like someone is trying to kill us, doesn't it?


Alan:  I mean chemicals that should not be there will make you ill. Anything that's not naturally in nature especially in these concentrated doses will eventually affect everybody. There's no getting away from it. It's everywhere.


Jackie:  Yes, and the people that call you. You've talked to people from all over the country that so many of them or that the people that they know are having respiratory problems.


Alan:  Yes, frequent recurring too and some people are more prone to it than others as well, so it shows up on them more frequently and more obviously. A lot of people you know can carry these illnesses and pneumonias for even two or three years before it really hits them, but the older they get the more it takes it out of them and so the more obvious it is. However, the very young and the very elderly are coming down first, but it's also affecting all age groups. Whether they smoke or not doesn't matter and people who are prone to allergic responses are coming down with it too. This is affecting – in fact pharmacists across the country and from other people who've phoned me they talk to the pharmacist and I ask them to talk to the pharmacist and it's like taking an informal study because the pharmacists are going great guns with antibiotics right now to cope with the bronchial infections.


Jackie:  Didn't you suggest that people ask their pharmacists what is the most prescribed antibiotic today?


Alan:  The new one they're dishing out by the handful or the bucket full is Vioxin. That's a fairly recent one but I wouldn't really use that except if nothing else works. It's more expensive too than the regular antibiotics and because it's fairly new I don’t think it has a generic supply yet. They have the patent for a while.


Jackie:  You'll probably pay about $20 a pill for it.


Alan:  Yes, something like that, not far off actually with the dispensing fee. The next most commonly prescribed thing for people who never had this before are the bronchial inhalers for bronchial dilators for people normally who have asthma and now it's being used for people who are developing asthmatic symptoms later in life and it's due to these chemtrails.


Jackie:  Yes, there are young people. It isn't just later in life because there are several friends that we have that I know their children are suddenly asthmatic and have never been asthmatic in their life.


Alan:  That's happening more and more frequently. We'll never get a complete study because I'm sure the government is keeping a lid on it. We know they're keeping a lid on the fact that they're even spraying. They won't even talk about it but they're collecting all the data, I'm sure. Another sort of informal study you can do is to inquire from undertakers what the most common cause of death is today and if their business is up, and it certainly is, and once again it's persistent pneumonias. This is affecting everybody from north to south and east to west.


Jackie:  Gosh Alan, it sounds like somebody is trying to kill us, doesn't it?


Alan:  No. That's paranoid now, Jackie. They wouldn't do anything to harm us.


Jackie:  I'm just a conspiracy theorist.


Alan:  Yes, they actually love us and they're just helping the aliens to take care of us. But no, I mean not one single newscaster on regular media or a newspaper will even touch the subject, so they all know that it isn't just losing their job perhaps. It's maybe the fact they'll never work again or it might even be more serious, but no one will touch the subject.


Jackie:  Well, they aren't allowed to and even if they did, do you think the news is live – the news is precut, isn’t it?


Alan:  Yes it is. Everything is bits and bites and it's all censored, edited. If you look at the end of the newscast, which most people don't, just look at how many producers are there editors, sub-editors and so on who decide what's to be left in and what's to be read over the airwaves.


Jackie:  In other words, what you're saying is the whole show is produced but you've got the one person sitting there live doing their scripting; because I was thinking if one of them dared to just come right out and tell the truth it wouldn't even be aired, but maybe one of these days some brave person will just get up and say I can't do this anymore right on the air right live. You know what I mean, Alan?


Alan:  It wouldn't happen because there is no such thing today as actually live. They have at least 20 to 30 seconds delay.


Jackie:  Okay, that's what I was wondering.


Alan:  And they'd switch to something else right away.


Jackie:  So it couldn't happen.


Alan:  Everybody is being watched you know.


Jackie:  Well, I got an email not too long ago and allegedly, you don't know this but it was somebody who said that it was a friend of theirs who worked for one of the networks and she said – this is referencing the past presidential election and you know there was next to nothing in the news about all the vote scam that went on all over the country but actually it was the state of Ohio where it was just totally out of this world. In other words, in one precinct using this as an example. Let's say they had 85,000 people voting when maybe there were only 30,000 registered voters in that precinct. It was just out of this world and I remember watching that night. I flipped it on just before I went to bed and this Ken Blackwell who's the Secretary of State there in Ohio, he was saying it's going to be at least 10 days before we can get the vote in and da-da-da and the next morning they were calling up for Bush and you know what I found out? I've been doing some research on JINSA, that's Jewish Institute for National Security something. Okay. JINSA. It's a Jewish organization and they've got this board of advisers and I was looking at the board of advisers. Ken Blackwell is one of the JINSA board of advisers. I think between JINSA and APAC they've got the U.S. government pretty well tied up. I mean APAC controls the Congress because of their large amounts of money; they can get rid of a congressman if they want to and JINSA is the adviser and so many of the people that are part of JINSA – in fact Cheney used to be on the board of advisers. Wolfowitz, I think it was in 2003 he was given the Man of the Year Award by JINSA and they come right out in their mission statement in their program and talk about that basically what their function is is to work hand-in-hand with the U.S. and Israel for the protection of Israel.


Alan:  These are huge lobby groups as well with tremendous funding. 


Jackie:  They've got a whole bunch of retired military admirals, majors, et cetera on their advisory board. It's really pretty sick. But you know what? At least – I don't know. It gives you a sense at least – not more than a sense. It takes away any doubt whatsoever that the U.S. government is totally under the control of these creatures.


Alan:  I think the U.S. government was maybe set up for this very purpose. I always think of the symbols of the U.S. from the beginning, actually before the beginning, all the Masonic symbols are so open. They're ancient symbols going way back to Sumer actually through Egypt with the eagle, the symbol of Manasseh with holding the arrows in one hand and the olive branch in the other. Of course you've got 13 fruit and 13 arrows in the U.S. one and the Rothschild family has the same symbol with 5 fruit and 5 arrows for the 5 sons of Rothschild but it's the same part of the coat of arms.


Jackie:  And there was the 13 original colonies.


Alan:  That's right and before that, I've got an old book from the early 1800's with the coinage and the tokens they were using for money prior to the revolutionary war.


Jackie:  In the colonies?


Alan:  In the colonies and this stuff about FDR putting the Great Seal or putting the pyramid on the money with the All-Seeing Eye on the pyramid, this was done before the Revolutionary War because if you check into the tokens that they were using and the money they were using prior to that in the colonies you will see the same thing there. They were using the pyramid and the All-Seeing Eye prior to 1776.


Jackie:  Yes well Alan, the chapters of the book that I have been working on so diligently for the past week and a half. Maybe it's been two weeks. I don't know. I've just lost time. It's chapters 16, 17 and 18 and they're already to go over to Darrin. In fact, I've got them sitting there just ready to send over. This is exactly what was addressed in these chapters. Well actually chapter 16 turned into three of them because first we were looking at the connection between the Talmud and the freemasons, the Jews and the freemasons. I mean it just leaves no room for doubt and then the question came into my mind actually after I finished chapter 12 of the book about the Revolutionary War because they constantly take claim – they brag that every single revolution that they were behind, so I got to looking into that and there is absolutely no doubt that it was orchestrated and pulled off and paid for this Hyam Solomon that is the big hero of the revolution. There's one of the bios on him from I think it's called Wikipedia. It's an encyclopedia online. Well Wicca or something like that. I thought of what you said about Wicca. But anyway, they come right out and say that he went over to France and got money from the Rothschild's to finance the Revolutionary War and in so many ways how they were involved in this and one of the pieces that I was excerpting from said that when the Declaration of Independence was written it was sent to Holland via St. Eustatius. I think it's St. Eustatius or something like that. It was an island where the Jews had developed a stronghold and they were supplying et cetera--


Alan:  Gunpowder was coming in too.


Jackie:  That's right. But here's what it said, that the Declaration of Independence was sent to Holland via the Jews from St. Eustacia. And that it was stopped by an English ship and confiscated and that the Declaration of Independence had a letter along with it that was explaining the document and it was in Hebrew. The letter was in Hebrew and then I found a piece on the French Revolution and that was the last thing I added to chapter 18. Well I started doing some research on Lafayette, I got wondering about that guy. That was the French – he entered the war. He was a wealthy Frenchman came over, he actually according to the bio purchased a ship and put together a bunch of – I guess they were revolutionaries. Actually, they didn't call them that. But Lafayette was a Freemason and he was the Grand Master of the Grand Orient Lodge until his death. He came over here and helped whip the colonists into fighting shape along with his revolutionaries that he brought with him. Then he goes back to France and then of course Benjamin Franklin was the Ambassador to France for five years after that, so was Thomas Jefferson, and it said that after he went back to France he kept very close contact with brother Benjamin Freedman and then Thomas Jefferson and then it proceeded to say that – I forget the words they used. Basically, he helped to foment the Russian Revolution and actually fought in it and then again in 18 – maybe it was 31, I can't remember the exact date. He actually led a revolution to take down the Bourbons, so this was an international revolutionist.


Alan:  It was international. Albert Pike wrote about it.Albert Pike said at that time in the 1800's, he said that we are behind revolutions. He didn't mince words about it and he said that we never begin a premature revolution. In other words, they do all their groundwork first. It takes years to set up. They train the people to do exactly what they're to do. They go over every possible scenario that could occur and ways to defeat oppositions long before it even begins and he said that's why they're so able to pull it off; and then Pike trained Giuseppe Mazzini, which is just Josef Mason. That's what it means. Mazzini is Mason, and he became the head of the World Revolutionary Party in Italy and that became the communist party Lenin took over from Mazzini. This was a continuous thread right through the Scottish Rite of Freemason from Charleston in the States.


Jackie: In the book that I excerpted from in chapter 16 was titled "The Cause of World Unrest" and it did mention that letter that Mazzini allegedly wrote and how they said that they were going to loose the nihilists and the atheists. I mean the bloody terror that they were going to cause and it all has happened that way. And the thing that's amazing to me, I found this piece on the French Revolution and in 1789 which is of course when the treasonous U.S. Constitution was being ratified here during the French Revolution or just before it – anyway, they came up with what they called the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizens, okay. Well, guess who wrote that? Well, in the first place, this article and I excerpted this and is the last part of chapter 18 the article said if you look at article 1 of the French Declaration and you look at article 1 of the UN Resolution you see that they're almost identical, and Alan, they were. I went and looked them up and put them in there and then so I'm reading this French Declaration and then you get down to the bottom and it says the above document was written by Major, General or whatever, Lafayette and his good friend and neighbor Thomas Jefferson. So there we are and of course they said a lot of it was based on the Declaration of Independence. Well, who wrote the Declaration of Independence? It wasn't Thomas Jefferson. His name was put to it, but when you've got the same damn language from back in the 1700's right up to 1948 and the UN is the same creatures with the same plan.


Alan:  There's no doubt this has been an old plan that's been worked down through the centuries to get to total control and it's a scary kind of future they envisaged because it is total control. They don't believe in individual freedom. They believe in the collective and they also under the guise of – because they use communism of course to the extreme because the final system, which we see right now in fact, has a fascist elitist group at the top with a massive bureaucracy running the common people under a communistic system, socialist system. It's a combination of the two and Lenin himself said there are three explanations to describe communism. He says there's one for the workers, which is very simple because they must get the workers behind them for revolution sake and they will think that it's going to give them equal rights and so on. Then there's one for the middle management level, which is more detailed in the scientific socialism which is very important. Then of course there's actual real ones at the top who understand the agenda and that is for those who deserve to rule the world have the right because of their superior intellect, they have the right to manage the lives of every single individual on the planet.


Jackie:  Wasn't Voltaire somebody that has been pushed out there like a great?


Alan:  Voltaire – just like today they use a lot of writers and novelists and so on because most ideas are put across through fiction because your guard is down and you enjoy the book and you don't realized you're being programmed along a certain way. Voltaire initially was from Switzerland. A lot of them came from Switzerland, these revolutionaries. Voltaire was groomed by a woman in Switzerland, a very wealthy woman. He had to leave there eventually because he was caught three or four times exposing himself in the streets to children and so they took him to France and eventually Benjamin Franklin took over as the Grand Master of the French Orient Lodge and he initiated Voltaire into the society.


Jackie:  Yes he did. I read about that – and this was right from the Grand Lodge, The Ancient and Accepted da-da-da from Scotland, and it was a piece on freemasonry. It told about all these wonderful people like George Washington and Benjamin Franklin and Voltaire and Lafayette. It told all their names. But anyway, it told in there that – I think Voltaire was in his 70's according to this when he was initiated into the higher degrees and that brother Benjamin Franklin did the rites and everything and then Voltaire touched the lambs wool, the apron to his lips with tears in his eyes.


Alan:  That's right. When he did that with his apron, I guess he exposed himself again. 


Jackie:  I guess he would have, wouldn't he?


Alan:  There was so many perverted people in these societies towards the top and of course the ones down below don't know that but they are very perverted and it's almost as though they're selected for that. People who have a grudge against society or they're personally an outcast because of their preferences are used to promote the agenda through writing and today it's movies and so on, but this is an old technique. Benjamin Franklin also belonged to the Hellfire Club in England outside London High Wycombe and it's an interesting name, High Wycombe, from Wicca, you see, and they had the riotous orgies there. The odd thing was during the Revolutionary War when Franklin was over in France, he traveled there every other month to London and he got into London – no one stopped him. You think he'd be arrested, but he was allowed to come and go into London and attend these orgies at the Hellfire Club and of course the actual Hellfire Club itself is still standing today and they had about five years ago in the British newspapers they renovated it and they did take up the floor boards and they found the remains of I think it was five or six babies.


Jackie:  Oh, they were doing sacrifices.


Alan:  They were either doing that – but they were doing more than that. They were doing selective breeding because every High Masonic club at that time had a type of brothel attached.


Jackie:  All right, listen. Hold the thought. Don't lose your train of thought because we have to take our break. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll be right back with Alan Watt. And please don't lose your train of thought there. The babies and the selective breeding.


All right, we're back with Alan Watt, and folks, those of you who listen regularly are very aware that Alan has written three books. His third one is now being delivered and I'm going to have Alan explain a little bit about the books and give you his address for those of you who would be interested. The reason I see these as so critical is that Alan gives us a lot of ancient history and as he's said over and over again that the same things happen down through the ages and for me and I believe that. I didn't disbelieve it at all.


But Alan, I was explaining this to you. The research that I've done and all of the connections that have been made and that there can be no denying that what you said about the U.S. being founded to bring in the final plan of the New World Order, the world they've planned for world dominion. With all the information that I've discovered there can be no denying it and there's something different about believing it and actually knowing it and it's sort of like taking a magnifying class just to one little piece of history going back 200 years. When you see the plan besides the writers and the producers and the directors and the actors and all of the intrigue and all of the machinations, you realize that this same plan with the same type of activity – it's like a pattern that has gone on throughout the ages right up to today all over this whole planet and your books take us way back there and help us literally to get out of the forest so we can see the trees. I guess that's what it is. That's what I wanted to say about that. If there's anything else that you want to say, you go ahead.


Alan:  Both Franklin and Jefferson made the same statement in their memoirs and they both said that the federation or the confederation of the United States would lead to a confederation of the world, of the nations, under one government run by 12 wise men. The 12 wise men of course in the Cabala is the perfect number of government. These guys were steeped in Cabalistic teachings.


Jackie:  In Hyman Solomon's – one of his bios that I read they said that it has been said that he actually he wrote the Declaration of Independence which is hogwash too and that he designed the Great Seal of the U.S. and that he always knew that America would be a world – an empire or something like that.


Alan:  That's why of course Wolfowitz and the rest of these boys in that club have said that this is the New American Century. They say there must be an empire. There's always been a world empire leader and they are the new world empire leader, so they've almost achieved their goals.


Jackie:  Yes they have and you know I've thought about that with the John Birch Society's magazine "The New Americans."  I wonder if that's a code for them for New America, the New American Century.


Alan:  Birch is a Masonic term.


Jackie:  Birch was a Mason.


Alan:  Birch, Ash, Icke – Icke is oak in German. He's oak, you see, which is higher than the birch, and so they use these trees for specific designations and it's a warning to all masons what they are. Masons always have their little clue there through the names of societies and so on.


Jackie:  You know the Birch Society reprinted [Berule's] book. What the heck was the name of that book? You know Abby Berule, the Secret Societies or whatever and in the preface of the book they had said that freemasonry is no longer – it's now benign. In other words, there's no power left in the freemasonry. Welsh. That was his name, right?


Alan:  That's right.


Jackie:  Welsh. What kind of a name is that?


Alan:  Again, it's not from Britain, put it that way. It's not Welsh, it's Welch, 'ch.'  A lot of these names are abbreviated. They compact them. You'll hear the name Baruch who was the banker. Now a lot of them of the same name compacted it down to Birk (Burke, Burk), for instance; so Welch is like Wel-loch or Wel-lash and so they compact it down – that's what they do with a lot of these names.


Jackie:  Are you having a storm there?


Alan:  Not yet. They're still spraying. It's building up to it though.


Jackie:  I just heard almost cracking like lightning.


Alan:  There may be further south.


Jackie:  Tell our listeners about your books and they can get them.


Alan:  Yes. There's three of them and I call them Cutting Through and there's I, II and III. [See for ordering information] and I'll get it back to you as soon as I can.


Jackie:  And you do recommend if they're only getting one book and they don't have the first one they should get the first one first?


Alan:  Yes. I lead them through the Masonic steps and leading up to the final one, which is a lot of ancient history to do with the same takeover techniques with the money boys and so on in ancient times through what records remain and you can see how incredibly precise this high masonry is. There's nothing slipshod about it. It's a science. A definite science, so much so, that your whole language as been created and masonically encoded in the 1500's when they updated English from the old German Saxon to what we call English today and Francis Bacon who helped to do that and he talked about it. He said, "we are creating the international language of the future which will be called English." They had a whole team of priests basically working on the creation of the English language and Shakespeare worked with them too, and Shakespeare through his plays introduced – I can't remember how many thousands of words, over I think 100,000 new words, into the English language. Basically, they created the English language.


Jackie:  Why are they making a big deal today about everybody having to learn Spanish like here in the U.S.?


Alan:  It's simply for the U.S. to have more friction. They're building up internal friction within the United States on purpose and then they'll pass laws which are coming down on everyone and then they'll come out with all the solutions to it. They've done the same in Canada. They have French and English. They've tried this in different countries so they know how to create friction very easily.


Getting back to the Hellfire Club, in the 1700's and right up to today in some very high clubs they have brothels attached to them. Now these weren't normal brothels in the usual sense; they did have women who worked "regularly" you might say, but they also had the higher prostitutes who were very high-class prostitutes with certain genetic lines in their blood basically, in their genes; and the Hellfire Club when Franklin was a member, the top one there was Madame Bouvier.


Jackie:  That was related to Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy?


Alan:  That's right. In fact, there's two of them still alive today, two of the Bouvier's in France, two sisters. They were highly sought after and if you could serve the system well of Masonry to further the revolutionary cause towards global governance by this intellectual elite or you contributed to science—that's why they all try to get their names in the science books—then you were allowed to mate with one of these high women, and the offspring then was trained and brought up as a tongue-in-cheek "orphan." The "window's son" they call it, and he would be trained for high office either in bureaucracy or politics. This still goes on today and there's talk even that Bill Clinton was one of these and that his father was one of the Rockefellers but his mother definitely was a high-class Madame Bouvier type who went to the very wealthy parties all over Europe and America.


Jackie:  Oh, she wasn't the lowly maid?


Alan:  Oh, no. No. She went to very expensive parties and traveled extensively.


Jackie:  You know I was wondering about this Lafayette. In his bio they said that his father died when he was two years old and that 11 years later his mother and grandfather died leaving him immensely wealthy and he was trained at the military school there and by the age of 16 I mean he was a professional solider. It made me wonder when the mother and grandfather died 11 years later if it was a natural death, or an accident, or were they taken out of the picture so their minion could have that kind of wealth.


Alan:  Well, it's that and it's also to cover the fact that they have brought up these children with one training and that's the expertise in martial war. Napoleon was also raised for that exact same purpose and when they came out with the first Declaration of Rights in France, they also said that we think that a man may come out of Corsica—where Napoleon was born and raised. A man might come out of Corsica and lead the revolution to glory; and of course Napoleon came along and he was steeped from the age of five onwards in nothing but warfare and warfare techniques. They train them specially for their function in life. It's quite fascinating.


Jackie:  I thought he came in after the revolution.


Alan:  Yes, he did but the revolution was failing. The "mountain" as they call it, the old masons, the older elders, they formed a huge part of the government. They were always arguing with the younger ones and Napoleon stepped in and took it over and he literally didn't change just France. He changed every country that he went into.


Jackie:  Well, he must have ticked them off because they vilified him.


Alan:  They vilified him in one sense, but in another sense he did much more. He did what he was supposed to do. He helped unify other countries into larger countries. That's part of the ongoing war program is to – like the Soviet Union did. They took all these small countries and incorporated them and then gave them exact same system of money, education, bureaucracy and so on, until you couldn't really tell them apart. Napoleon did help to unify a lot of the countries, small, tiny countries into larger ones, and that lead up of course to the first world war, step-by-step, it's all going in the same direction. Now you have a United Europe, which was also Napoleon's dream and it was also Winston Churchill's dream. That was part of it. Karl Marx talked about a United Europe, a Pacific Rim conglomerate and a United Americas, and he wrote about that in the 1840's and said they'd all be under a super world government. This is nothing new. It's all been put out there. It's just isn't taught much, if at all, in schools. However, the books are there in the universities. It's an ongoing process and the United States is simply finishing off the task, and as it finishes off the task its standards of living must come down to meet those of the rest of the world which is being leveled.


Jackie:  They're leveling the playing ground, the playing field.


Alan:  See, a country which cannot feed itself, number one, and the farming basically is going right out the window in Canada and the States. It can't feed itself. It has no industry to even rearm if they had to by themselves, is no longer a nation really. In other words, they're helpless, so they need the international system now.


Jackie:  There was somebody evidentially on the Fox New Network and I don't know who it was but I did get the email and the interview and I skimmed it and this yo-yo said on Fox News that he's expecting within 90 days something very – another terrible attack on the U.S. I don't know if it had something – by the way, there is an article and I checked it out myself from the Navy Times. The title of the article was "Uncle Sam Wants You Even if You're 42 Years Old" and that was the article from the Navy Times. I went and got it and then there was I think New York Times article and said that the Pentagon was calling for raising the age on recruiting to age 42.


Alan:  They had a blurb on one of the newscasts that they'd actually taken in undertakers – recruited them, called them into duty and I think they were close to the age of 60.


Jackie:  Undertakers, that would be to take care of all the dead bodies?


Alan:  Yes. The U.S. according to the BBC and CBC in Canada is having a tough enough job just policing Iraq and they want to go into Iran, Syria and so on, so they must have trouble in all the other countries that are going to help them to motivate them to help them. That's why you're having all this trouble in London and so on. If you were a true terrorist you would sit back because Tony Blair and his cabinet were ready to get kicked out of parliament after all the inquiries which were out in the open and about all the lies that he told to get the public to go along with the war. He was on his way out and then the week following the bombing was scheduled to be mass demonstrations in the streets against the ID card and why would the terrorists go and help Tony Blair?  Because off go the bombs, he's back up on the podium again and "we're here to protect you." He's in charge. He's the man of the moment and out goes the ID. The public are getting it.


Jackie:  The real ID like we've got here?


Alan:  It's the same company that's manufacturing it for the world and it's an active chip inside it and you must carry it at all times and it has your health on it and everything. Plus, it will be used they have said for your bank card as part of the cashless society. That's out in the open over there, so they'll monitor everyone's transactions. This is total observation.


Jackie:  There's a piece there titled "New Order of the Barbarians."  I've talked about it before. In fact, a long time ago I read most of it to our listeners and this insider Dr. Richard Day – this was back in the early or mid-60's speaking to a group of pediatric physicians in Pittsburgh was telling how they were going to bring all of this about. It is absolutely amazing. Dr. Lawrence Dunegan who I believe just recently passed away was a pediatrician, one of the attendees and Dr. Day told them that several years ago he wouldn't have been able to tell them what he was going to tell them that night. But he said everything is in place and nothing can stop us now. We are going to go in to the 21st century with a running start he said and this time we're going to get it right and he goes into detail about what they're going to do. That's what sparked this thought in my mind, Alan, about the cashless society and how they'll do it and how close a track they'll be keeping and when you read this you will have no doubt that this was told by an insider. It wasn’t somebody who made it up. He even talked about the people who believed that they could run and hide. Maybe go out and live in the woods or something. He said we'll burn the forests down and what the heck are they doing today, Alan?


Alan:  I know. The Ministry of Natural Resources had a documentary on with the Forestry Commission and it's so interesting. I always laugh at the theories as they swap from a complete opposite theory and the opposite becomes the new norm and now the guy who use to fight the fires – the new theory is that they should set the fires. Of course, British Columbia had over 3,000 fires last year and a lot of people lost their homes in it and the ministry is now starting these supposed control burns, which have the habit of getting out of control. That is the new norm now. I noticed that none of the animal rights activists are even talking about this, which doesn’t surprise me, because think of all the animals that are getting killed and roasted in these fires.


Jackie:  And part of the insanity as I recall. This was quite a few years ago in California and some people were burning brush around their homes to make a firewall and these people were fined because there was some kind of a mouse that lived in that kind of brush. These people were actually fined for setting the fires that literally wound up protecting their home from the forest fires; and yet, like you said, they're burning all these forests down and many animals with it and these animal-loving organizations aren't saying a damn word.


Alan:  They're willing fools and it's only their leaders who know the real agenda, but the willing fools are just another class of sheep just like religious people. They do what their leaders tell them and that's why they're not protesting. Their leaders, just like the Soviet Union, the Soviet Union was run by NGOs, primarily women, and I've got that first-hand from a lot of people from the Soviet Union and they were all handpicked by the politburo all the leaders of these NGOs and it's exactly the same here. The Rockefeller Foundation I know for a fact because one woman works for them and her job is to write checks to these NGOs. That's all she does. Thousands of checks and the Rockefeller Foundation is backing most of them and along with that comes the Rockefeller policy. If you accept the money, accept the policy.


Jackie:  And the NGOs in one of the UN's writing that I have, they're talking about the UN becoming a true world parliament and that the only thing that was missing was the voice of the people and then basically what it came down to is that the NGOs are the voice of the people and to use an example of that the – oh, what the heck is it? The business. Gee, everybody joins it.


Alan:  Rotary club.


Jackie:  No. When you own a business. Oh shoot. I went through this the other day talking about this with somebody and the name escaped me. It's local. Chambers of Commerce, Alan.It's one of the oldest NGOs. It's international and of course then it's national and then of course it's state and then it's local and I was a member of the Chamber of Commerce for years when I owned my business, until I found out that they were promoting the NAFTA and I was beginning to wake up and I got out of it. But when you think about the millions of people who were members of the Chamber of Commerce and there's the Chamber of Commerce at the international level speaking out for all of the UN programs. They take this. That all of the millions of people that are members of the Chamber of Commerce, the chamber is speaking for those people and that's the parliament of the people are the NGOs.


We are out of our hour. Alan, thank you. You know what? I don't know. Maybe you'll come back tomorrow night. You know what entered my mind as you were talking was the hermaphrodite when you mentioned women and we had a conversation about that and I think it would be very interesting for our listeners and so maybe we could pick that up tomorrow night.


Alan:  Sure.


Jackie:  Okay, thanks. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being here and God bless you and have a lovely evening, folks. Have a nice day tomorrow. Alan, thank you. Good night.



(Transcribed by Linda)