June 14th, 2006
Alan Watt on
"Sweet Liberty" with Jackie Patru


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Jackie Patru: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.  Thanks for being with us tonight on Sweet Liberty.  It is Wednesday the 14th of June, already, in the year 2006.  We havenít had any summer here yet.  I donít know about you folks.  Itís been 60, going down into the 40s at night.  Today it actually got up to 70, but we really havenít had any spring or summer, just because.  Anyway, Iím glad youíre here with us tonight.  And Alan Watt, thanks for being with us tonight. 


Alan: Yeah, itís a pleasure.


Jackie: And youíve been a pretty busy guy, havenít you?


Alan: Yes.  On TV tomorrow.


Jackie: TV?  Youíre getting to be a real celebrity, arenít you?


Alan: Well, Iíll know that if the money starts coming in.  Iíll know Iíve made it.  (Laughter)


Jackie: Well, you better be.  You know what, Iíd be a little worried if the money starts coming in.  And it may.  Do you remember when you were on George Noory and you had mentioned that you had been invited to join the Freemasons and go all the way to the top, because you already.  And he said, well.  And you mentioned that they approach people who have the public voice, you know, the newspaper editors and...  But you didnít mention broadcasters, and then he said, you mean like me, talking to a lot of people.  And you said, yes.  He said, well, nobody has approached me, maybe Iím doing something wrong, Alan.  And you said, or, maybe youíre doing something right, George.  Remember that?  And, doesnít it make you wonder, Alan?  Why theyíre letting you talk so much? 


Alan: I donít know.


Jackie: Well, what do you think?  What are your thoughts on it?


Alan: Whatever Iím saying is getting through to people.  I know with listeners.  And I do know that a lot of these stations get a lot of emails for me to come on with people.  So, I guess, maybe, theyíre just putting me on for the demand or what, you know.  I think some of these stations too are getting a bit worried about the events happening in the world, because everybody is feeling the changes that are coming down.  Thereís more people even noticing the spraying in the skies.  For the last four days here, for three days I had a fire on night and day.  The stove was going.


Jackie: Oh, it was that cold? 


Alan: It was that cold. 


Jackie: And you went up to 90 already.


Alan: Before that we were hitting above 90 and it dropped right down to about the 40s for three days.  Overcast, totally.  Again, the yellow rain, you know, they left the yellow stuff.  So this yellow element is creating the rain and the cold.  And today itís clear though.  So people are noticing these changes, and many things are starting to be affected by all the security now.  Even mail to the States, Air Mail is going the same rate as over land, because theyíre checking everything thatís going through.


Jackie: So, you were talking about the yellow rain.


Alan: Yeah, these yellow bands around the puddles.  The same as they had in California.  It was on the Channel 4 newscast a couple of weeks ago.  So, itís the same stuff.  And it looks, when you see it, itís almost the consistency of latex paint.  I mean, thatís what it looks like.  Itís not pollen.† And itís on everything.  Iíve even got tarps outside over woodpiles and thereís big yellow patches on that too. 


Jackie: Well, have you talked to anybody else thatís getting that stuff?


Alan: Not so many up...  I live out in the boonies here, so I donít talk to many people.


Jackie: Well, I mean, the people that you talk to on the telephone.


Alan: Oh, I tell everybody. 


Jackie: I know, but have other people experienced that same thing?


Alan: No.


Jackie: Well, theyíre doing something different there, arenít they, Alan?


Alan: I think so.


Jackie: And we talked about this last week.  The probability is that it has something to do with the weather modification.  And as you had mentioned, just in case somebody is listening tonight that didnít hear us last week.  You had mentioned that you, like you were hypothesizing so to speak, that you thought that the reason youíre getting such weird weather, like up to 115 last summer in Northern Canada, is that you thought that maybe they were using the HAARP antennas and beaming them over to the pole, to melt the ice caps.† And if theyíre doing that and you thought that okay then, if that was the case, you would be where you are, youíd be right in the path.


Alan: Yes. Thereís no doubt.  They are.  They admit it in the treaty they signed at the UN that they could move and direct the jet stream.  So, and they could also bring it right down to ground level, if need be.  And weíre seeing that.  Weíve been seeing that for the last three or four years now, where youíll see two layers of clouds, one going in one direction and one going in an opposite.  So, itís a twirl up there like an overlay.  Theyíre both passing each other in opposite directions.  And this last week, I saw a new phenomena, where cirrus clouds were underneath the cumulus clouds, which doesnít happen, you see, unless theyíre manmade.  And of course, you can tell by the polymer vapors, they were manmade.


Jackie: Well, I was getting an article ready to send over to Darren for the website in the weather section.  And while I was doing that, it was an article that I had, that I had already prepared, but hadnít sent over.  And there was another one that just came in.  I guess thatís what prompted me to do it.  It was an article that had appeared in the tribune.  Itís Pittsburgh Tribune, I think, or something like that.  And they were discussing, Time Magazine, an article from March 6th.  Time Magazine evidently had a cover story, and the title of it was, "Be Worried, be very worried."  And it was all about global warming.  Well, then, the article discussed Time Magazine, a Time Magazine, an article from 1974, June 24th, and the title of it was, "Are we heading into a new Ice Age?"  And I went, and I did a research, and I found that June 24th article, 1974.  Now, they were blaming droughts and floods and all the crazy weather on the fact that the temperature for the past three years had been lower than normal, and if the temperature drops, even one degree, it could mean that we were heading for a new Ice Age.  Okay.  Now, their article in March of 2006.  Global warming, all the crazy weather is being blamed on global warming.  So, you know, like you said, people lose their memories.  Or, how many of us read that 1974 article, but when you see the two of them together, itís the same damn story, except one of them is, global warming, and one of them is taking us into an Ice Age.  And there was a statement in that the Ice Age Story.  And it was the last statement and a quote by a guy.  And he said that if this weather continues, this cold weather continues that, how did he say it?  That the planet would not be sustainable for many people.  And he used, thatís the word, sustainable.  And I thought, oh, that was part of their intro into sustainable development.


Alan: Because I know there was one fellow who put a book out in the 70s, and he was really a PR man for the UN, and he, his book was called The Coming Ice Age.  And the same guy, I think 15 years later, when they decided to make it warm instead, was putting a book out about the coming, you know, warming period.  So, they go back and forth like this, to keep us all running.


Jackie: Be afraid.  Be very afraid.  Or be worried, be very worried. 


Alan: Buy more, stock up on woollies, your woolly pullovers and stuff.  Or else, buy a lot of suntan lotion. 


Jackie: And somebody informed me recently that a study, I donít know, some group did or something, showed that 70%, I think I said this last week also, that 70% of the tanning blockers have carcinogenic chemicals in them. 


Alan: Iím not surprised.


Jackie: So, you know what it comes down to, Alan.  Donít trust anything that isnít natural.


Alan: And use common sense.


Jackie: Yes, use common sense, but itís like that mosquito dope.  Well, Chuck used to slather himself with it.  And I said, I donít know.  I just donít like putting stuff like that on my skin.  Because your skin absorbs everything you put on it.  I mean right into your system, fast.  And by gosh, it was a couple, three years ago that it came out that the deet, I think itís deet, in the popular mosquito stuff that you slather on you is very dangerous.


Alan: Itís neurotoxic.† And also, I was using that quite often a few years ago, when I was doing different things outside and fixing trucks and things.  And whenever you had it on your hands and went out and touched the steering wheel, youíd start melting the plastic on the steering wheel.† Or hand tools, electric drills that youíd leave your fingerprints on the drill, etched into them, because the stuff literally ate into the plastic.


Jackie: Did you quit using it then?


Alan: Once in a blue moon, if itís really thick.  If it gets thick, you have no option.


Jackie: I think they donít like garlic, Alan.


Alan: I donít know.


Jackie: No, I think the mosquitoes donít like garlic.  Yeah, and you know, we can find things, for example, take some olive oil, which is very good for you, and put some garlic in it, and use that.


Alan: Well, I know thereís different potions.  People are trying them out.  Different herbal potions.  And I do have a bottle here from last year Iíve still got to try.  And yeah, but Iíd like to find something that really was effective.


Jackie: Well, it wouldnít hurt to try garlic in olive oil, would it?


Alan: No.


Jackie: Because both garlic and olive oil are good for you.  So, if your skin absorbs it.


Alan: Youíd be a pretty lonely guy, mind you.  I mean, thereís nobody around here.


Jackie: (Laughter)  Well, you know, I give the girls garlic, the dogs, they get garlic every day in their food.  And Iím told that it would keep, even the vet said that it would keep the mosquitoes away from them.† They donít like the taste of the blood, anyway.  So, if they donít like the taste of the blood, they must be able to smell it, I mean, before they actually get to the blood, smell it on the system.† So, give that a try, honey, after you use up your herbal remedy.† We donít have a lot of mosquitoes up here.  Weíre 1800 ft, and when you have little brisk breezes all the time, you donít have mosquitoes.


Alan: Thatís handy.


Jackie: Itís very handy.  Itís one of the blessings of being where Iím at.† So, tell us what youíve been doing.  Youíve made a new, have you got your new video done?


Alan: I tell you, I sent it off a week ago, express post, express and air mail, and for some reason they put it under Purolator courier, the Canadian version of UPS and it still hasnít got there.  And, on it, I had some still photographs for one of the TV shows that are coming up.  However, I still have to transfer them onto this old computer here, this old í98 thing.  And talk through how they do it, and transfer the images and send them off to the station.


Jackie: What station are you going to be on?


Alan: The next one is tomorrow night.  Itís called "Out There" at 11pm.


Jackie: Out There.  Whereís that at?


Alan: Itís from the States, but itís affiliated with stations in Britain, television stations there in Europe as well.


Jackie: I mean, is it on a regular channel?


Alan: Iím not really sure.  But itís on the website how to get to it.


Jackie: Okay, on your cuttingthroughthematrix.com.


Alan: Theyíve got a big audience, though.


Jackie: "Out there", huh?


Alan: Yeah, way out there. 


Jackie: You know, we were talking one evening.  And whatever the conversation was about, I really got it, Cutting Through the Matrix; because basically, that is what you are doing, isnít it, Alan?


Alan: It is.  Itís pointing out what really is going on above them thatís kept separate from them or their reality, and showing them how itís giving you the reality, and then altering the reality as they move to the next step.  And it truly is like that, because the sciences are so far advanced in these secret laboratories and military complexes that to us it really is science fiction.  When last week, on the Discovery Channel, when they talked about the nanotechnology that literally they could spray billions of these in the air, these tiny robots, and youíll breathe them in, and they can get in your eyes, and this is so tiny you wonít even notice them, and theyíre tiny transmitters.  But nano robots can also link up inside your body and create a whole electric circuit. 


Jackie: Did they say what the purpose of these nanorobots were for?


Alan: Well, what they said, they were transmitters.  But thereís no need.


Jackie: What were they transmitting though?


Alan: Well, thatís just it.  I donít think itís just to transmit.  You wouldnít need billions in order to transmit.  So, whatever they give us is a cover story for something else.


Jackie: But, I mean, they actually said that they can get in your eyes. 


Alan: You wonít notice, because theyíre the size of a virus.


Jackie: Donít you think they did that to scare people?


Alan: Itís possible.  And whatever they declare to the public is obsolete, really.  Whatever weíre given at the bottom level is always obsolete.  Theyíre way beyond that.  And thereís even another type of technology.  Itís hyper nano or something, which is even smaller than a virus.  Itís about half the size, again.


Jackie: And the virus, I heard one of the, I canít remember her name, one of the doctors that got off the, out of the medical circuit, but anyway, she was talking about AIDS, and she said, to give you an example of the difference, because she was saying that the rubber gloves that the surgeons wear have these microscopic little holes in them.  She said if you compare the size of a bacteria with a virus, I think she said, take a football and put it on a football field, and the football field would be the bacteria and the football would be the virus.  Am I overstating that?


Alan: Itís pretty well like that.  A virus is I think .05 microns, like a cold virus.  So, thatís really, really tiny.  Thatís how it can pass through the tissue walls.  So, yeah, theyíre so far ahead in technologies that itís mind-boggling, and thatís just what theyíve allowed us to know.  And this isnít stuff that theyíre just working on.  When they declared they could spray billions of these in the air, that means they can churn them out now.  Now, what kind of equipment are they using to even construct these things that are so tiny?  Thatís mind-boggling too. 


Jackie: Are viruses a natural, I mean, not the ones today, but have viruses ever been a natural part of this earth?


Alan: I would tend to think not.  Because when you study viruses, theyíre almost like tiny little spaceships in a way.  Theyíre not round or roundish like a bacterium


Jackie: And theyíre crystalline in nature, arenít they?


Alan: Yeah, theyíre crystalline, and they can come along like a little hexagon, or whatever, float along through the bloodstream, and when they want to invade a cell, a body cell, they put out little legs, just like a landing pod.† And then they land on it.  And then a little proboscis comes out of the bottom, like a trap door.


Jackie: Oh, Alan, is this every virus?


Alan: Pretty well, yeah.  And then it drills in through the membrane, and it empties its contents right into the cell.  And that way itís hidden, and the contents are hidden inside your body cell.


Jackie: And the body doesnít recognize it as a foreign invader.


Alan: Thatís right.  So, when you really look at it, it does look like something thatís been created here out of...


Jackie: You know, itís almost as though theyíve been given programs to do specific functions too.


Alan: Oh, they have.


Jackie: Itís almost like they can think.


Alan: Well, you know something.  The weirdest thing was on.  Our CBC here, the television station, gives you these oddball shows once in a while.  And they really tell you something, but they donít dwell on it, so it goes out of peopleís memories.  But about four or five years ago, there was a program on phagocytes.


Jackie: Okay, thatís a kind of an organism.


Alan: Well, these things wereÖ in your body, when different things like clots are breaking down or your body is repairing something, the Phagocytes you have naturally move in, and they eat basically all the refuse thatís there, the white cells, the damaged body cells.  Theyíll eat it up for disposal, the garbage disposal.  And this program showed you a history, which is totally unknown to the West.  And in the West, we came out with Fleming and his penicillin, and all that silly story they gave us.  And about the end of WWII, they got it into production, penicillin, and there was nothing else.  And they kept telling us for, right up to the present day, ďoh, my God, the bacteria are becoming resistant.  We donít have new types of penicillin.  We just donít know what to do.Ē  And out comes this program on the CBC, and it started with this little guy from Canada, an unknown guy, in WWI, who went off to Russia.  And he set up facilities to help the Red Army.  And the factories are still there that he built.  So, he wasnít experimenting.  He went over with the knowledge to put this plant up.  And what they did, they got all, they even showed you this massive, huge wall of it, it was like a factory wall, with all pigeon holes in it.  And it was a cooler.  It was all kept cool, like a morgue.  And in there, they had human flesh, with all kinds of diseases from the Russian Revolution, the Soviet Bolshevik Revolution.  And they had never used penicillin in Russia, right up to a few years ago. They didnít need them, because they could literally create viruses, and alter viruses to attack any bacterium. 


Jackie: Well, then, what about the virus, once the virus?


Alan: The virus was programmed so that once its target was destroyed it literally stopped reproducing.


Jackie: It self-destructed.


Alan: Thatís how perfect they could program it.† And it was in Georgia.  That was their main facility.  And this guy from Alberta was one of these hot shot buyers for big companies, so, he fronted for them, went over there, made all the deals and bought the rights, and the program ended and it said that a company from New York had bought this technology, and this may be available to the public soon, and thatís the last we heard of it.  But they showed you through the plant, they talked to the doctors.  You saw doctors, if you went in with a child with pneumonia, into the doctorís office, and after he found out what kind of bacterium it was, the pneumococcus and so on, he would bring out a little spray, just like the kind of little puffers, little rubber puffer type from the bottom, a bulb.  And heíd tell the child to breathe out, and heíd squirt a few, you know, in the breath that the child was inhaling, and that was it.  Go home, and those viruses would take off in the body, attack their target, clear it up, and then they would self-destruct.


Jackie: That was in the Soviet Union?


Alan: That was in the Soviet Union.  They had never, they never had a need for...


Jackie: Why did they have such good medical care there, Alan?† Why in the Soviet Union did the slaves there have such good medical?  Well, they wanted to keep their slaves healthy, I suppose.


Alan: They had to.  I mean, the whole thing was to give everything the appearance that they were doing well.  But, primarily, that guy had gone over with this knowledge.  And he wasnít going over to try and help them.  He went over with the knowledge.  And this was about 1917. 


Jackie: Well, remember Dr. Richard Day, that talk he gave.  He said back in 1968 that there is a cure for every known disease in this world.


Alan: Yeah, I believe that.


Jackie: In the Rockefeller, you know, files.


Alan: Yes.  There was a half page or one page in one of the British papers.  It might have been the Daily Mail, a few years ago, before Princess Diana was called Di, and then she died.  And it was a reporter who was going with her as she jetsetted to the parties, you see.


Jackie: Iím sorry, I interrupted you.  You just whizzed that thing by us. 


Alan: Yeah, this reporter accompanied Diana, as she went from party to party, thatís kind of what they do at that level.  Sort of aristocratsí parties.  Young ones.  And he did notice that they were completely promiscuous.  And he just mentioned it, he said, I asked them, he said there was a group of them there, he said, I asked them, arenít you afraid of, you know, catching a disease.  And he said they all stood and looked at him, you know, like stunned zombies.  And then he went on to another topic.  In other words, he was stunned that they were stunned, but he didnít pursue it.  And what I think is that the elite, you see, have the real inoculations against all of this stuff.


Jackie: Or maybe not inoculations, but to cure anything they get.


Alan: I think they have the real inoculations.  See, you can give real inoculations.  Because they looked like he was crazy, like who is this guy?  And meanwhile, AIDS is rampant, and syphilis made a comeback and gonorrhea, and non-specific urethritis and a whole bunch of other things.  But these people were not in the least concerned about it.


Jackie: You know what that reminds me of?  When you say, inoculations.  Who was the guy that allegedly in England invented the inoculation against smallpox?  Okay, well, we donít need to remember his name.  He was called a doctor.  He wasnít a doctor at all.  He had bought his degree.  Paid for, you know, something that said he was a doctor.  But, you know, the thing that I read, that blew me away, is that, and weíve been told this, he used the serum from cowpox.  And the cowpox is a totally different molecular structure than smallpox.  And to put that into people, is not inoculating people against smallpox.  Itís probably giving them the cowpox. 


Alan: Well, I do know, thereís no doubt, when you trace the histories of inoculations, especially from the British records, youíll notice that in the 1800s they started making a lot of these things compulsory. 


Jackie: Yes, and thatís when they had all the plagues. 


Alan: They did, and generally the deaths were exactly the same.


Jackie: In every country that they made it mandatory there were the outbreaks.  Weíre going to take a break here, and weíll be back right after this. Folks, youíre listening to Sweet Liberty with Jackie Patru, myself, your hostess, and Alan Watt.  I guess we would say co-host, yes, Alan?


Alan: I guess so.


(Commercial Break)


Jackie: Okay, weíre back.  Alan?† We were on a roll there, and maybe weíve...


Alan: Oh, the inoculations. 


Jackie: But maybe weíve completed that.  Or, Iím interested in the new video that youíve made.† With, what is it about?


Alan: Itís again about ancient techniques of managing whole peoples, different peoples, mainly through religion, how they always used, had lay groups involved under different names.  And I think they brought that back again in the industrial era for Freemasonry for the middle class.  And eventually it came into the working class later on.  But I go in to show you how the whole system is a real system youíre living in; it just didnít evolve haphazardly.  And thatís the impression, you know, they love to give about even Britain.  Even the comedy shows always show you these kind of blustering bureaucrats that are absent-minded and all this kind of thing.


Jackie: Right.  Harmless, idiots. 


Alan: Yeah, terribly absent-minded people.


Jackie: But not mean-minded and evil.


Alan: And yet, when you study the old books on British diplomacy, and they had schools of British diplomacy in London.  And they ran the Empire as a business.  They were like the head of the business.  For the government, and really for the Establishment.  And these guys had these far-reaching plans.  They had their board meetings to sit and discuss the fate of Africa for the next hundred years and countries like that.  And all the changes that would come throughout the rest of the world.  So, these diplomats were sent out, well trained, well educated, and often they were the third or fourth generation in the family doing the same thing.  And they would play mental chess with people across the planet, all the dignitaries they came in contact with.  And it was always to get something from them, or to manipulate them into a particular part of a world agenda and so on.  And itís one thing to see that Cecil Rhodes, who was definitely set up, to expand the British Empire, and to take over the wealth of the world, the natural resources, the gold, the silver, the diamonds of Africa.  And they pretended, of course, that he was separate from the British government, but no, he definitely had the blessings of the British government, the elite, anyway.  And he even caused the Boer War, he brought it on.  You know, they had the Jameson raid, where his boys went into South Africa, and when they retaliated, eventually Britain sent troops over.  So that was a complete set-up.  Thatís how they set up things in advance, and give themselves the excuse to go in and take things over.  And then, when the country, even for fifty years, or sixty or seventy has served them very, very well, and theyíve looted it, then the same elite financed the ANC, the African National Congress to take over Africa.  And when Rhodesia was going under, and all those immigrants were being killed, and eventually South Africa, Britain was completely quiet on the matter.  So, they use peoples all the time.  And then they leave you to die, without a murmur from the British Parliament.  And it gave no aid to anybody.


Jackie: You know, when I read about South Africa, maybe it was a, it was a James Mitchner book, and it was called The Covenant.  Maybe, I donít know.  But when you think about it, those English, British people that went over and settled South Africa, they took the land.† You know, I get all these emails, Alan about, oh, the poor people over there in South Africa, and how the blacks, the natives, are, you know, taking all their land and all that stuff.  And I thought, it isnít their land.  What the heck were they doing over there in the first place?  What the heck?  They enslaved those people over there. 


Alan: Yes, they did.


Jackie: They took them as slaves.


Alan: Well, they made them work down the mines, and made them pay.  Gave them money and made them pay taxes, and all the rest of it.


Jackie: And then there was apartheid.  You know, if you had 1/16th of African blood in you, then you werenít a white person.  And you werenít part of the society.  I can remember when I was reading about that, and Iíll tell you what, at that time, I was very naive about a lot of things.  But what I wondered is, you know, these Boers that went over there, they were so religious, Alan.  And they took slaves.


Alan: Old Testament religion.


Jackie: Well, I know it, but I didnít realize that at the time, see.† But I thought, how could these people be enslaving other human beings and be so religious.† Until I really got back into the Old Testament.  Well, you know, as we go and grow and learn, I understand it now, but itís like, you know, the Bible Belt in the Old South, all the slaves that they owned and beat and mated with...


Alan: Most of them, you know, were sold out of New York Harbor.


Jackie: But they were Bible-thumping Christians.† But they were Old Testament Christians.


Alan: Well, sure.  Itís been used and abused.  Again, the worst in human nature is encouraged at times, when it suits the purpose of those above.  But what Iím saying, even about Africa, and this goes back all the way to John Dee and Francis Bacon.  Francis Bacon wrote about the necessity of governments once in a while to eliminate their surplus population, to be beneficial to the country.  So, the country that, like England at the time, would send off these people to different countries, to open up those countries for them.  Now, if they didnít have countries to open up, theyíd have found other ways of bringing the population down.  So, they would encourage all that immigration, but what Iím saying is years down the road, they probably knew when they sent in the British to South Africa, they probably knew how long it would take before they could plunder everything out of it, and set up a system they could leave which would appear to be run by the black people.  But in reality, itís a little duplicate, mini-democracy.  And of course, then, when you go into the Royal Institute of International Affairs and the CFR, thatís their policy, as Cecil Rhodes put it down and Lord Milner.  Their policy was to go into countries and never leave them until they were perfectly sure that they had set up the same system of Parliament, the same system of voting, the same hierarchy drawn from the same classes that would run that country, and they would be in cahoots, with the same aristocracy of England.  So, thatís still in effect today.  We see that happening in Iraq right now.  And thatís going to be a long, long, drawn out affair.  And they will not pull out of there until theyíre absolutely certain that one or two generations have passed, and now thatís the new normal, that new system over there.


Jackie: You know, okay.  I donít want to get off the track here.  So, Iím going to make a note here to go back to Iraq, the slaughter thatís going on over there.  But, your new videos, for our listeners.  Now, youíve got three videos at your website, cuttingthroughthematrix.com, and theyíre all free, and people can download them.  This one, you said that you made, hopefully to help to fund, to finance the website.  So, tell us about, okay, how long is it.  I mean, youíve given us a little bit of a synopsis of it. 


Alan: Once the final things are put in there, thereís certain cuts to get put in, it will be at least, at least two hours long.


Jackie: Two hours.  And this is on DVD?


Alan: Yeah, DVD. 


Jackie: Okay, and what is the cost on it?


Alan: I havenít figured it out yet. 


Jackie: Well, you better.


Alan: I know.  I have to figure it out, because with everything.  You see, the mailing has to go airmail now, to try and hopefully get there faster than overland, because the mail is a mess right now. 


Jackie: What does it cost to mail a DVD, a disc?


Alan: I expressed that last one, just the DVD, and I paid 8 bucks.  And you know how light a DVD is.


Jackie: Oh, yeah.  Itís like a half an ounce. 


Alan: So, that was express, but he still hasnít got it yet, and thatís over a week ago.  Because theyíre holding up everything in the US border, and going through everything.


Jackie: Well, why donít you try sending it Ground, and see if...


Alan: Actually, I phoned up the post office today, and the woman told me at the head Post Office for Canada, thereís no difference right now. 


Jackie: Well, Alan, I told you that the first time I sent that box to you.


Alan: Yeah, but I wanted to make sure that DVD didnít get lost.


Jackie: Yeah, right.  Well, I sent it airmail, and then the next one I sent was ground, and they both got there at the same time.


Alan: Itís pot luck, you know.


Jackie: Yes, it is.


Alan: Because, what theyíre doing is theyíre holding up some batches of mail, and going through it all, and letting other ones go through.  It just depends which one they hold up.  But thereís some people have waited three weeks to get something delivered.


Jackie: What is it?  Did you find out what ground would cost?


Alan: Well, ground, just regular, I can mail one out for $1.05.


Jackie: Oh, youíre kidding me.


Alan: Over land.


Jackie: Alan, you ought to try it.


Alan: Well, I would have, but I thought, well, you know.


Jackie: You wanted to get that there fast.


Alan: Hand delivered, because theyíve got to sign for it and all that.


Jackie: Sign for it.  Yeah, well.  So much for that.


Alan: But coming into Canada, I get the mail quickly.  But itís going through the US.  You see, they think weíre all secret Muslims up here.


Jackie: Oh, God. No they donít.


Alan: Yeah, they do.


Jackie: No, they donít.  Theyíre just making it difficult.


Alan: I heard that, I heard that Mr. Bush is getting a special team to take DNA tests of every Canadian to see if heís really a secret Muslim.  So, Iíve got this old rug on the floor here.  Iím going to throw it out in case they think itís a prayer mat.


Jackie: (Laughter)  Iíve got prayer mats all over my house then.


Alan: Oh, youíve had it then.  But, itís just getting so damn silly, really.  So silly.


Jackie: It isnít silly.


Alan: Yeah, it has nothing to do with what.  You see, what theyíre going for now is the complete rush for the whole world system.  And itís nothing to do.  Theyíre using terrorism as an excuse.


Jackie: And you know haste makes waste, Alan.† They are, you know, they used to go, what did they call it, two steps forward, one step back.  Theyíre going leaps and bounds today.† Theyíre laying the cards open on all the tables.  And maybe theyíre going to make a mistake.


Alan: I mean this pretense ofÖ What worries me, is that, see, they want everybody on the planet IDíd.  Thatís in the global agenda.† And the amalgamation has happened already, itís just that theyíre keeping the borders there temporarily for the US. Europe has amalgamated.  The Pacific Rim.


Jackie: Can people travel all over Europe without a "pass"?


Alan: Yeah, you can go under the Chunnel.  You know, the tunnel under the Channel they call the Chunnel.† And you can go right through and drive all the way to Russia.† But I do believe, I was listening to a program, it was a documentary, and the European cars have these little monitor modules in them.  And theyíre tracked by satellite.† So, they donít even need any borders.  They know whoís passing where.


Jackie: They know where you are and yes.


Alan: And thatís coming into the States, apparently, on this superhighway thatís coming up from Mexico.


Jackie: The NAFTA highway. 


Alan: Itís built for the same thing.  And you will be taxed by the mile automatically.  That is on the cards.  Itís been spoken about and published.  So, this totalitarian world theyíre bringing in is really what theyíre after here and theyíre using this nonsense about a cave man to do it.


Jackie: Yeah, weíre biding time, you know.† My car is sixteen years old.  I have a little Chevy Berretta.  And I know itís got, I mean, itís computer command, but it doesnít have the, whatever you call it.


Alan: Electronic doo-dad.


Jackie: However, I had a friend in Illinois, who worked for the railroad.  And, oh my goodness, this was fifteen years ago, and he said that every single railroad car had those on them so that the satellite, in other words, what do they call it?  Thereís a word for it.


Alan: Oh, itís a satellite.


Jackie: But anyway, thereís letters they use that mean something.


Alan: Global positioning.


Jackie: Global positioning, thank you.† Well, he was telling me about it, and I was in awe.  I said, you mean theyíve got them on every single railroad car.  He said, yeah, because every car has to be accounted for and before we had to do it on paper.


Alan: Somebody might steal the car.


Jackie: Yeah, well.  They drop one off and some other train is...


Alan: You hitch it to the back of your truck and drive off with it.


Jackie: Supposed to pick it up and the wrong one picks it up and takes it somewhere.  All they have to do is push a couple of buttons on the computer, say, oh, my God.  Itís in North Dakota.† Itís supposed to be in South Carolina.† Go get it. 


Alan: Well, you know, Walmart was mentioned on the Canadian National News here, last week.  And it was only a five-minute blurb.  But it was about Walmart has everything IDíd with this little disc.  And the disc, itís like a little perspex, see-through disc, about the size of a quarter.  And the outside of the disc is looped with a copper coil, so you see the copper color around it.  Thatís the antenna.  And a tiny little chip was inside it.  And it said that Walmart has demanded that their supplier, see, hereís the blackmail, they get you in as a supplier and then they start dictating to you.


Jackie: Yes.  Because they are the biggest buyer.


Alan: Thatís right.


Jackie: I think they started with Gillette Blue Blades or something.  But Alan, their chips, they might say theyíre a disc with an antenna.†† Theyíre chips.


Alan: What got me is when they showed the disc on the TV, and then they said that theyíre forcing all the companies to start using it.  And of course, theyíll offset that by saying, well it will be better for the companies too, because then they can keep track of their stock.  But I thought, thatís the shell, because you donít need anything nearly that big.


Jackie: Itís for inventory.† Well, thereís a website, and I canít remember what it is.  But this woman, in fact, when I was in St. Louis in December of 2002, and Chuck was doing the radio broadcast, he had her on the air with him.  Now, interestingly though, I contacted her after I got home to bring her back on, and I never heard back from her.† But she was saying that they have these chips, are like a little, you know the glitter that you can get to put around.  She said that it is small and tiny and thin as that.  Theyíre woven into underwear.  Theyíre in everything.


Alan: Theyíve even put them in the rubber soles of the shoes.  In the process of making the rubber sole, theyíve inserted it in the middle of it.


Jackie: Well, at the grocery stores, theyíve got, itís even up in Elmira, which is like 37,000 people, my closest Ďbig cityí, where I do grocery shopping.  I never even noticed it before, till I heard about these checkout lines, where they donít need a checkout person.  You just walk through.


Alan: Well, thatís what they said on this program.


Jackie: And that baby, that thing, just records everything youíve got and tells you what you owe.† I found, I saw it at the grocery store in Elmira.  Itís a checkerless, checkouterless line.  Geez.


Alan: Thatís right.  And thatís what Walmartís putting up.


Jackie; You know, Iím glad I havenít bought any new clothes in a long, long, time, Alan.† Iím wearing clothes that Iíve had for years.  And when you buy good stuff, you know, real stuff like cotton, it lasts. 


Alan: Sure.  The problem is when you get the rubber tires for the car.


Jackie: Oh hell.  Oh, man.  Oh, I hadnít even thought of that.


Alan: They are putting them in the walls of the tires.


Jackie: Oh, no.  So, I donít have a global positioning in my car, but I have it on my tires.  Youíre probably right.


Alan: Yeah, they are.  That was admitted.  Not on the same show but on another one I saw.


Jackie: Well, I would be very boring to them.


Alan: Well, itís not a matter of being boring.  Itís that in a totalitarian systemÖ


Jackie: They have to know what every one of us are doing.


Alan: Everyone must be predictable.  Thatís it.


Jackie: And this is, how would you say, clicked another thought in my mind, total quality management.† Okay well, I had Anita Hoge on, a long time ago.  That was in í98, when I was on at 6pm.  And she was talking about total quality management, and she explained it Alan, the way it really is.  She said, what they intend to do is to absolutely keep track of, like weíre talking right now.  Everywhere we go, the money we spend, what we spend it on.  Etc, etc.  Because total quality management, the end purpose for them is energy in vs. energy out.  And when you are no longer a producer.  In other words, how much are you producing vs. how much youíre eating, the calories youíre taking in.  And when you become a useless eater, you are out.


Alan: And thatís the definition of the United Nations, of a good citizen, is a good producer/consumer.  So, yeah, when you start just consuming, what does that make you?


Jackie: Yep, youíre a useless eater.


Alan: So this is where theyíre going.  Itís for total efficiency.  Weíre the herd.  And thatís as cold-blooded as that.  Theyíre the farmers, weíre the herd.  Theyíre the good shepherds, they call themselves.  But we are definitely the herd. 


Jackie: You know, one thing I do do, do do.


Alan: Do, do.


Jackie: Yeah, I do, do, is because, you know, when Chuck passed, before he did, I had no checking account.  My car was in his name.  I was a non entity.  And the day I went and opened a bank account, I cried on the way home, because I knew I was becoming, you know, like you say, what we have to do is get out of the system.  Well, there are certain things that youíre just not going to be able to do without being part of the system.  But what I do do is I pay my bills, you know, the electric bill and the gas bill and the phone bill and the taxes, I pay them by check.  Other than that, I pay cash.  And everything else I do, as often as I can, I do it by cash.  Because I, and not that Iím doing anything wrong, Alan, I just donít want to broadcast to those bastards.


Alan: I know, I know.  You see, thatís, DARPA, you know the DARPA.† DARPA, I think itís under their statement.


Jackie: Well, what is DARPA? Do you remember? 


Alan: Oh, itís something to do with total.  They call it total information management.  I donít know where the DARPA comes in.  But yeah, theyíre all about total information network.  And you know, people should realize they mean total.  Itís about all information.


Jackie: Oh, everything.


Alan: Itís letters, itís writing, itís internet, itís talking on the phone.  Everything.  Total is total.  Thatís why these Voice Over internet companies now are pushing up there with all these great deals, because they want all communications going through the internet system.  Itís easier for them to monitor everything then, rather than go through a separate system.  Itís for their efficiency, not for our good that this is happening.


Jackie: Well, you know what I say.  I donít say it, Iím repeating it.  The best laid plans of mice and men often go astray.


Alan: Well, what we can do is breed carrier pigeons.


Jackie: There you go, Alan.


Alan: Because those guys can fly a long distance, you know.


Jackie: You know what theyíll do. Theyíll chip all the carriers, all the pigeons.


Alan: They might.  Well, make sure you donít feed them the modified food.† Because thatís what itís coming to.


Jackie: Well, this isnít very, this isnít, this conversation tonight is quite, whatever.  But it is the way it is.  And, you know, to live in fear, to live in, how do you call it, cowering.


Alan: Itís no life at all. 


Jackie: Yeah, exactly.  So, you know what.  To hell with them.  Weíll do the best we can do, and let them play their game.  And their game has never been successful, has it Alan?


Alan: To crush the human will takes an awful lot of cunning and planning.  And they certainly think theyíve got enough plans up their sleeves.  But I think they underestimate human will.


Jackie: And what is it?  The Ghost in the Machine.† Theyíve never been able to figure out.


Alan: That elusive part that tries to preserve itself and continue.  The individualism within, yeah.  Itís the creative spark, you see.  You see, they want to kill that creative spark.  And I think theyíll lose, because thereís a will here thatís beyond their control. 


Jackie: Yes.  And theyíve never been able to do it.  Alan, thank you.  This has been delightful tonight.  And we never talk much anymore, because youíre so busy. 


Alan: I know.


Jackie: So, itís nice to talk with you. Folks, weíll be back Wednesday night.


Alan's Materials Available for Purchase and Ordering Information:


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Ancient Religions and History MP3 CDs:
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