The Nation State


Email from a listener --- WHO pandemic agreement is non-binding


by Not Sure

28 Jan 2024


            This is the poem that Alan Watt wrote to accompany his November 11, 2010 talk for Republic Broadcasting Network:

Those Who Guide Fate End the Nation State:

“Van Rompuy Lenin, Gloating with Hate,
Proudly Announced End of the Nation-State,
Mission Accomplished, Pleasing his Masters
Who Own the E.U., Bringer of Disasters,
Suit and Tie Revolutionaries, Socialist Lovers,
Screwed Whole Peoples, Under the Covers
Of Pretences and Lies of "Just Free Trade",
As They Gobbled in Taxes what People Got Paid,
For Years These Commissars Worked Undetected,
Media Gave Cover so No-One Suspected,
Amalgamation was Always the Destination,
Leaders Signed “Closer Ties” Binding Each Nation,
He Who Caught On was Branded the Fool,
Suffering Haughty Sneers and Much Ridicule,
The World is a Stage, Politicos are Actors,
Plying Deception to Hide Any Truth Factors”
© Alan Watt November 11th, 2010


            “Van Rompuy Lenin” was Alan’s name for Count Herman Van Rompuy was prime minister of Belgium from 2008-2009, and the first permanent president of the European Council from 2009-2014.  In that capacity, at a G20 summit in 2010, Van Rompuy (Lenin) said, “The time of the homogenous nation state is over…” [and the idea that countries can stand alone is an] “illusion” and a “lie.”

            As Alan Watt often pointed out, the Nation-State is something which is trotted out when necessary and put back on the shelf to gather dust when not needed.

            Working on another project this morning, I investigated the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (CEIP), and specifically what René A. Wormser wrote about it in his 1958 book, Foundations: Their Power and Influence.  Wormser described Andrew Carnegie as an “internationalist,” and the first head of the CEIP was Alger Hiss, an American government official who was involved in the establishment of the United Nations and was accused of spying for the Soviet Union in the 1930s.   A CEIP publication from 1934 complained about the “economic nationalism which is still running riot, and which is the greatest obstacle to the reestablishment of prosperity and genuine peace.”


            At the southern border of the United States, illegal immigration has swelled to the point where many days more than 10,000 migrants cross into the U.S.  Last month, a record 302,034 tried to cross the border.  President Biden said Friday that if a bipartisan bill “were the law today, I’d shut down the border right now and fix it quickly.”  Some Republicans have said that they will not sign off on the bill’s request for additional aid for Ukraine until a deal is reached on border security.

            The U.S. Supreme Court has ordered that U.S. Border Patrol can take down razor wire which the state of Texas has used to defend its border with Mexico, a right the state’s governor claims he is asserting under the U.S. Constitution.  A convoy called Take Our Border Back (God’s Army) is headed to the southern border and aims to stop illegal immigration.


            Alan Watt often pointed out that Free Trade was the free flow of goods and services, but the catch is of course, it isn’t a free flow.  What goods and services flow are tightly controlled by “trading bloc” associations of member states.  In the 1970s, the European Union was famous for its butter mountain, a government intervention created surplus, leading to great waste.  The surplus has disappeared since at least 2017, leaving us with shortages and high prices.


            Immigration, illegal and otherwise, is a problem across Western Europe.  A recent Telegraph article entitled “Ireland’s pro-immigration elites are driving the country to the brink.”  The piece starts off:


“Pro-immigration elites have turned Ireland into a powder keg. The fuse was lit last November when riots broke out in Dublin after three young children and a woman were stabbed by a man of Algerian origin. Angry locals took to the streets. Buses were set alight, shops were looted and police were viciously attacked, in an outpouring of violence unlike anything the city has seen in modern times. Since then, a migrant hotel in Galway and a planned homeless shelter in Dublin have been put to the torch – and Irish politicians and media have been quick to finger “far-right” hooligans as the villains of the story.”


The World Economic Forum met in Davos, Switzerland earlier this month, with the promise to “rebuild trust.”  After the heads of state and business moguls returned home, we are told that the conference worked diligently to address the war in Ukraine, the Middle East crisis, gender equity, and Artificial Intelligence.  Most bankers and billionaires weren’t the least bit troubled by the prospect of another four years of Trump.  Jamie Dimon of JP Morgan Chase and Co. said, “Be honest, Trump is “kinda right about NATO. Kinda right about immigration. He grew the economy quite well. Tax reform worked. ... I don’t like how he said things about Mexico, but he wasn’t wrong about some of these critical issues, and that’s why they’re voting for him.”  Dimon has been positioned as the people’s banker, a rough-edged character, when in fact, he has the education and connections of the East Coast Establishment.  Other bankers at Davos didn’t offer that kind of endorsement, but several of them said that it didn’t matter at all who the president of the United States was, business would continue without interruption.


The Nation State was given a nod with the much-publicized speech by the new president of Argentina, Javier Milei, who lambasted the WEF members for their socialist bent.  Described as an anarcho-capitalist, Milei is the latest populist in the Trump vein.  He decries the left and “cultural Marxism.”


In an age where internationalism and its geopolitical and trading goals is our operating system, we are still given national concerns to fight for (borders) and national figures to champion and vote for.  We live under internationalism, but the destruction of nations and national identity is not complete.  Part of the strategy of war on the Nation-State is the constant repetition that we no longer have a say in long-planned outcomes.  This we must fight against when we can.  Our main weapon is knowledge of The Agenda, and the commitment to stay focused on the big picture.  In an information war, we inform ourselves of what rights remain.  We share that knowledge.  This is an email I received from someone commenting about statements I made about the World Health Organization push to make a new pandemic agreement, set to finalize in May of this year.  The author makes good points, and it is a reminder to pay close attention to the details of these big stories as they unfold.


© Not Sure


Email from a listener --- WHO pandemic agreement is non-binding


Whereas treaties are binding, they only regulate international relations, i.e. relationships between governments. You need an act of Congress that obtains the president’s signature for a statute that regulates, “we the people”, so:

a) Governments are free to not ratify the treaty.

b) The treaty (if we are constitutional), has no impact on citizens at all, but can be implemented by an Act of Congress.


Whereas the President’s government may well ask Congress to pass a law and he may claim he is bound by treaty, Congress cannot be coerced by the President to enact any treaty.


A great example in the UK is that we signed up to the European Convention on Human Rights in the 1950’s. However, Human Rights and the jurisdiction over them by the European Court of Human Rights only occurred after the treaty was incorporated with the 1998 Human Rights Act of Tony Blair.


What we have discovered here, is that the 1980 Public Health Act in the UK has a provision that allows the relevant Secretary of State to enact a regulation to implement international health regulations. Absent that, they would need an Act of Parliament, a Statute consented to by both Houses of Parliament receiving Royal Assent from the King. I've been a lone voice saying that the treaty is not binding on how we the people are governed, and that we should focus instead on repealing section 45B and in particular subsection (C) of the Public Health Act 1980 so that incorporation of the regulations does not by-pass the democratic statutory process.

Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984


The focus on the treaty being binding distracts people from regulations like the one I mentioned. You most likely have similar statutory provision in USA and Canada that delegate powers to the Secretary of State to incorporate these treaties into domestic law, but nobody is discussing this.

Ultimately, the WHO and a treaty cannot alter or bypass the constitution, only a constitutional convention can do that, so for that reason the treaty cannot bypass normal national legislative channels. My fear is that the psychic driving of saying over and over that the treaty is binding will cause people to believe that the constitution allows this or that the constitution has somehow been altered. That way they get it via the development of a new informal custom that is illegitimate, but which will impact our lives.


Additional reading:

WHO calls for world pandemic treaty to prepare for deadly ‘Disease X’

Governments continue discussions on pandemic agreement negotiating text

Proposal for negotiating text of the WHO Pandemic Agreement - PDF of proposed agreement

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